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Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee #987871 21/02/2010 16:11 21/02/2010 16:11
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Since taking delivery of my lovely new Plus, I've have a seen the return of a problem with my knee that I haven't had since owning a new vectra back in 1998. Which had (supposed) ergonomically designed seats. Basically, the driving position of the Plus seats is raised higher than those in a standard 20VT. I get this really sort of burning/aching pain in my right knee, and, I can only get relief by pushing the seat right back making my leg straighter, of course, this is not a good driving position ... obviously. Never had the problem with the lower 20VT seating position. Has anyone else suffered this? Maybe these plus seats are not right for me! Not good news!

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #987873 21/02/2010 16:15 21/02/2010 16:15
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917 J JimO Forum veteran
JimO Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,917	Never heard of it before, you could try jacking the seat up at the back with washers, to see if that helps, it would straighten your leg marginally. Or you could try a beaded seat cover, cabbies wear by them

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: JimO] #987876 21/02/2010 16:19 21/02/2010 16:19
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Like the washers idea Jim, will try that one

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #987884 21/02/2010 16:31 21/02/2010 16:31
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,022 ation szkom Club member 2000
szkom Club member 2000 Forum is my life Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,022 ation	It might be twisting in to the seat is slightly different in the plus which is aggravated by the different seating position. I have more of a problem in the coupe than my old Rover owing to having to twist around the steering wheel to get in (my legs fit under in the Rover)

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: szkom] #987894 21/02/2010 16:46 21/02/2010 16:46
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	another plus item you may have to get rid of phil... maybe swap them with nigel's hyundai seats which are also very nice? you will certainly need to be comforable with them driving to.from and around spa!

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #987900 21/02/2010 17:00 21/02/2010 17:00
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	I don't think it's the twisting szkom, it's the position or angle of my leg/knee when driving - you know, it's pretty static when doing this. Shame it's not the clutch leg as you can at least move this one! If there were a way to lower the seat, I'm sure this would help! Proccy, don't get me thinking that way!

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #987902 21/02/2010 17:12 21/02/2010 17:12
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,022 ation szkom Club member 2000
szkom Club member 2000 Forum is my life Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,022 ation	With me though I twist my knee when getting in, I can feel I've set it off, then it hurts to have my knee at a certain angle, but better when straightened. Maybe a physio could give you some exercises to do to help?

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: szkom] #987923 21/02/2010 17:53 21/02/2010 17:53
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 11,159 , S samsite999 I AM a Coop
samsite999 I AM a Coop S Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 11,159 ,	I have had knee problems in every car I have ever owned bar the coupe and the bravo. The Mr2 was by far the worse with a spreading burning pain developing after 1+ hour of driving. With me it looks like its a height issue, the lower I am the worse it gets

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: samsite999] #987941 21/02/2010 18:23 21/02/2010 18:23
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	Patch - you're welcome to come and try my Hyundai seats - they have an adjustable seat base, so you can alter the angle of the seat - it makes quite a bit of difference on a long drive

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: samsite999] #987942 21/02/2010 18:23 21/02/2010 18:23
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,704 Harpenden S sugerbear Je suis un Coupé
sugerbear Je suis un Coupé S Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,704 Harpenden	Next thread will be "I dont like the red bits, spoilers and the honeycombe grille on my plus" lol. Never had a problem with the driving position. Have you tried a laying the seats backs more and adjusting the steering wheel (up down and forward back) ? and also knocking the seat back and forwards to see if the problem with your knee improves. How to make a startrek widget cable >> http://tinyurl.com/dyje6fy

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: sugerbear] #987944 21/02/2010 18:30 21/02/2010 18:30
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	I'm not looking to lose the Plus seats Nigel. I just need to find a solution to prevent the knee issue. Thanks for the kind offer though Sugarbear - I have tried many seat positions/adjustments before bothering to post the thread

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988005 21/02/2010 19:54 21/02/2010 19:54
J joel Unregistered
joel Unregistered J	they give me backake

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988047 21/02/2010 21:00 21/02/2010 21:00
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 23,304 North Wales Theresa Former Presidentessa Club member 58
Theresa Former Presidentessa Club member 58 Forum Fossil Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 23,304 North Wales	I used to get the burning/aching pain in my knee when I had my Fiesta if i had to drive it for more than an hour. With the Coupe, I find I can usually go about 2 hours before this happens now. Haven't driven a Plus on long distance though, so don't know how long it would take before my knee started hurting in one. I'm sure I'll find out in June though

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: Theresa] #988072 21/02/2010 21:55 21/02/2010 21:55
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: Theresa Haven't driven a Plus on long distance though, so don't know how long it would take before my knee started hurting in one. I'm sure I'll find out in June though if it's not broken again!!

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: Theresa] #988073 21/02/2010 21:58 21/02/2010 21:58
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,084 Pontypool mr_tickle Club member 1455
mr_tickle Club member 1455 Competition Level Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,084 Pontypool	I've been thinking about mentioning this for a while now - It's not my knee but my right foor. I find it uncomfortable to hold my foot up on the accelerator. my calf aches because it feels like I have to my foot it up very high. Also travelling on the motorway just aches because the pedal is too light. I have found myself rolling my foot over to the right so that it also rests on the carpet. How does anyone else find this - any tips? It's much worse in my citroen , but then I get to use crise control

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: mr_tickle] #988085 21/02/2010 22:20 21/02/2010 22:20
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 23,304 North Wales Theresa Former Presidentessa Club member 58
Theresa Former Presidentessa Club member 58 Forum Fossil Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 23,304 North Wales	Originally Posted By: mr_tickle I have found myself rolling my foot over to the right so that it also rests on the carpet. How does anyone else find this - any tips? Funny how you only think it's you with the problem, until someone else mentions it. I do the same with my foot and I think that's what causes most of the problems. I only realise when I'm in pain and then re adjust my foot, etc, to get it squarely on the accelerator again and try not to slip back into putting my foot over onto the carpet.

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: Theresa] #988125 21/02/2010 23:13 21/02/2010 23:13
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Well, driving back from Wales tonight, I took off my trainer, the pain was still there but it seemed more bearable! Seems that the difference in foot height between wearing it and not wearing it helped a little - how bizzare!

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988128 21/02/2010 23:19 21/02/2010 23:19
J jonjeffryes Unregistered
jonjeffryes Unregistered J	Originally Posted By: patch234 Since taking delivery of my lovely new Plus, I've have a seen the return of a problem with my knee that I haven't had since owning a new vectra back in 1998. Which had (supposed) ergonomically designed seats. Basically, the driving position of the Plus seats is raised higher than those in a standard 20VT. I get this really sort of burning/aching pain in my right knee, and, I can only get relief by pushing the seat right back making my leg straighter, of course, this is not a good driving position ... obviously. Never had the problem with the lower 20VT seating position. Has anyone else suffered this? Maybe these plus seats are not right for me! Not good news! On the one long journey (300 miles) undertaken since I bought my 16v last week - I had exactly the same....I ended up placing a neck cushion (bought at the services and horseshoe shaped) under my rigt leg at the end of the seat squab...not sure if the squab is too short or if I can adjust the seat to compensate but the basic problem seems to be a lack of support... Last edited by jonjeffryes; 21/02/2010 23:19.

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988132 21/02/2010 23:22 21/02/2010 23:22
Z zonta Unregistered
zonta Unregistered Z	try taking out the rubber mounts the seats sit on,and put in rubber washer,and you'll be that half inch closer to the ground.

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988135 21/02/2010 23:23 21/02/2010 23:23
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Another great suggestion - cheers zonta

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988141 21/02/2010 23:37 21/02/2010 23:37
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,985 In an Audi Taffy20vt My life on the forum
Taffy20vt My life on the forum Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,985 In an Audi	I dont have any problems with my recaro's, but then again im younger than you lot Ex 432bhp '00 Sprinty 20vt6 '17 S3 Sportback '69 Amazon 131

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: Taffy20vt] #988145 21/02/2010 23:41 21/02/2010 23:41
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: Taffy20vt I dont have any problems with my recaro's, but then again im younger than you lot You young whipper snapper, enjoy it while it lasts.

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988347 22/02/2010 13:22 22/02/2010 13:22
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: patch234 Originally Posted By: Taffy20vt I dont have any problems with my recaro's, but then again im younger than you lot You young whipper snapper, enjoy it while it lasts. i'm older than you lot, but i have no problems either - mainly cuz it's nearly always off the road....

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988348 22/02/2010 13:24 22/02/2010 13:24
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 11,159 , S samsite999 I AM a Coop
samsite999 I AM a Coop S Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 11,159 ,	how many days is that now then proccy!

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: samsite999] #988352 22/02/2010 13:30 22/02/2010 13:30
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	what, on or off the road? still off at the mo, waiting for the aa to take it to motormech

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: ] #988356 22/02/2010 13:32 22/02/2010 13:32
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 11,159 , S samsite999 I AM a Coop
samsite999 I AM a Coop S Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 11,159 ,	Thats most annoying

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: samsite999] #988368 22/02/2010 13:57 22/02/2010 13:57
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,568 Northampton England Sedicivalvole Club member 2092
Sedicivalvole Club member 2092 Forum is my life Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,568 Northampton England	What is wrong with it now Steve? Vinci Grey LE Alfa 147 GTA 3.2 V6 BMW E92 M3 4.0 V8 Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole 2.0 16v ABS

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: Sedicivalvole] #988376 22/02/2010 14:14 22/02/2010 14:14
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,581 London MrCooper I need some sleep
MrCooper I need some sleep Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,581 London	Your car is pi55ed that you stripped it of its wheels. Ex Grigio Moon 20VT Plus Ex 350Z Now Aston Martin Vantage

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: Sedicivalvole] #988395 22/02/2010 14:41 22/02/2010 14:41
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: Sedicivalvole What is wrong with it now Steve? bought an uprated fuel pump - and it failed after 31 miles

Re: Worrying problem - Plus seats hurt my knee [Re: samsite999] #988399 22/02/2010 14:45 22/02/2010 14:45
E Eoghan Unregistered
Eoghan Unregistered E	Originally Posted By: samsite999 I have had knee problems in every car I have ever owned bar the coupe and the bravo. The Mr2 was by far the worse with a spreading burning pain developing after 1+ hour of driving. With me it looks like its a height issue, the lower I am the worse it gets Lol i have a differant height issue as im 6ft 7 and find myself cramped up in nearly every car i sit in bar the coop

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