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H&S Downpipe #1019001
13/04/2010 10:58
13/04/2010 10:58

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Has anyone had any fitment issues with there downpipes.

H&S claim it fits in there jig yet it clashes with my sump and oil cooler pipes, i told them i would post the question here as i'm at a loose end they claim they will just chop and adjust where i say it clashes but i'm not happy with this as a solution.

So who's fitted like a glove ?

Steve

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019012
13/04/2010 11:10
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Mine fits perfectly, but it was the original downpipe from which they made the jig

I've never heard of anyone else's H&S pipe not fitting, so is it possible that your car is slightly different somehow?

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019013
13/04/2010 11:10
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are you referring to the 5 stud DP?

They all fit ok, a little tight and close to the oil cooler pipes but never touching.

Again they are close to the sump due to the flexi being at that point which is wider, but never touches.

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Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: Rog20VT] #1019019
13/04/2010 11:13
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Mine fits perfeclty too (V band)

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019021
13/04/2010 11:15
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how much did you pay steve?

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: Rog20VT] #1019025
13/04/2010 11:19
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Yes the 5 stud dp

The flexies now moved to the standard position. They changed things slightley. I even undone the oil cooler brackets to get an extra 5mm but no go. Its to far back to line up the 5 bolts.

I told H&S i'd post the question as mine DOESN'T fit and there has been alot of wasted postage.

Oh what to do????????????? banghead furious

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019029
13/04/2010 11:25
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My 5 stud holes had to be drilled bigger as they were way out,and the plate on the sump has to be spaced quite a bit for it to fit!

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019038
13/04/2010 11:47
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I paid alot. In all honestley not to happy about there quality. It was 4 stud to begin with as one hole they covered with shite welding and didn't bother to finish.

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019046
13/04/2010 12:01
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hmm... by alot do you mean 250?

more or less??

if the part is so bad call them to complain!!

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019051
13/04/2010 12:08
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More than £350 mate.

I'm trying to be diplomatic, but they are telling me it will fit, but it doesn't.

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019055
13/04/2010 12:17
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mate tight situation really...

if it font fit just send it back to them with your issue's!

and if need be bring the car to them!!


Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019059
13/04/2010 12:24
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Got any pics of it so those of us that have one (including me) can compare? Sure, it sticks out further from the 5 stud flange and gets mighty close to the oil pipes, and heatshield hole for lambda sensor has to be opened up a lot. IIRC I had to space out the plate on the sump, but I don't think it touches the sump itself.

Is there any identification plate welded on it by any chance(not sure if there should be)?


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Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: DaveG] #1019071
13/04/2010 12:40
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If you read the first post mate it won't line up i can't get to dressing it if it won't bolt on.

I compared it to another H&S pipe and the bend is a different shape which H&S are claiming isn't true(they have the pipe now).

This post was more to see if anyone else has had fitting problems as H&S asked me to do it. Although i don't think they wanted me to include the welding comment smile

Steve

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019082
13/04/2010 12:55
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How did you compare it to another pipe? If you still have access to the other pipe I guess you'll have to take it to H&S with your car and show them the problem (plus this thread stating no fitment problems).

What turbo do you have? Is it the standard manifold? What about the cat and rest of the system?


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Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: DaveG] #1019144
13/04/2010 14:13
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I know someone with one of there dps we took it off to compare.

Standard mani with a gt turbo.

I'm going to give Ian a bell now to see what we can do

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019145
13/04/2010 14:19
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Sorry Dave read my post above again and if it came across me being an ass apologies.

They are going to make a few minor mods and we'll try again. I must say they may be expensive DPs but H&S customer service is top notch.

Steve

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019150
13/04/2010 14:24
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it might be worth trying johnny bravo as i had a custom one made recently 5 stud to 2.75 to fit a blueflame..he fitted it but didn't report any issues to me

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019152
13/04/2010 14:27
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Oh it was you grr laugh

I read a where you said it fitted to your blueflame and ordered one for myself

I blame you for all my grief laugh

I may well PM JBT

Steve

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019470
13/04/2010 23:02
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oh no.. mate i am really sorry..i originally sent them a blue flame downpipe so they could make sure it all fitted they were using the original 5 stud jig then making the cat end correct fit and position for the bluflame .. so it should be the same as mine..thinking about it though if they had the blu flame to work from they could not get it wrong ..without it they are using the standard jig without a physical reference ..i can only think there is an issue there or its just been made by the wrong guy on the wrong day in the wrong frame of mind! lets hope they sort it ..i am sure they will they seem pretty reasonable when i dealt with them..good luck

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1019640
14/04/2010 11:30
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I get the impression your right with wrong guy wrong day

It's coming for the third time to me tomorrow so hope it fits.

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1020495
15/04/2010 18:04
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Oh wow i wish i could recomend H&S less....

They said they would rework it and smooth the area by the oil cooler pipes.

They hit it with a fucking hammer....and it still doesn't fucking fit.

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1020531
15/04/2010 18:54
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click to enlarge

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This is what i recieved....

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1020546
15/04/2010 19:21
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Shocking that shocked

I'd send it back and tell them to make one that doesnt require whacking with a hammer.



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Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: Taffy20vt] #1020622
15/04/2010 21:08
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that is shocking!!! shocked it isnt realy a full 3" downpipe like that is it!? id demand a new one or a refund at least!!


Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: TurboNick] #1020679
15/04/2010 23:17
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i am gobsmacked by that! i thought you were joking when you said they had smacked it with a hammer..mate i am really sorry if you did it on the strength of me i am going to ring john now and see what mine was like and if he had to do anything...
its got to go back now though eh?

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1020706
16/04/2010 00:08
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They have just made a big mistake and have probably lost alot of business from this site. You could of smacked it with a hammer yourself, unbelievable

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1020708
16/04/2010 00:09
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All i know is i havent been impressed with the systems i have fitted to customers cars.
Very unrefined.

Rob your system is okay,although its a little raw around the 5 stud.But the issue is that no one else does them.

There seems to be alot of demand for these 3'' downpipes.
I looked at doing these in house but couldnt find anyone to supply the parts cheap enough to make it worth a group buy.
The adaptors and flange reducers are wedge.

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1020797
16/04/2010 09:16
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wow steve!

thats a mess.

look forward to there responce!

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1020813
16/04/2010 09:28
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Don't worry ktm only bought it because you said it fitted i trusted H&S.

I'm going to call them later

Steve

Re: H&S Downpipe [Re: ] #1020881
16/04/2010 10:48
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i don't know what to say ...and that doesn't happen often..i just hope you get a result

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