if anything that is going to restrict flow and with no gains what so ever send it back to them and ring them up saying you want a 3" downpipe that fits and has a 3" bore all the way down like what you payed for. Ive been on a welding course now for 5 weeks and i could do a better job than that.

Well they are going to fit it in a month when i get time to go down there.


This will be fun to watch.

I don't think they like me anymore

you need to arm yourself with irrefutable evidence before you go

If the downpipe doesn't fit, there can only be two reasons

1) The downpipe is slightly different
2) your car is slightly different

if its number 2, you won't have a leg to stand on, so you need to eliminate the possibility, which can be done in one of three ways

1) Find another 20vt and carefully check the position of the oil cooler pipes
2) try to fit the downpipe to another 20vt (preferably, one with an H&S 3" downpipe already fitted)
3) Compare your DP with another H&S that's know to fit

TBH, the angular bit of your pipe Just downstream of the weld and just ahead of the hammer dent) looks nothing like mine - my original H&S DP has much more of a smooth radius

I'd guess they've gone slightly outside the tolerances of their jig

that'll be interesting if nothing else

looking at another H&S system nigel thats the conclusion I came to.

"the angular bit of your pipe Just downstream of the weld and just ahead of the hammer dent) looks nothing like mine - my original H&S DP has much more of a smooth radius".

But they will not have it they say its identical.

You need photos of other DPs - like I said - irrefutable evidence

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=73557&Number=889747#Post889747

A few posts down a full 3' H&S DP if thats any help

Ben

Cheers Benny big help.

Clearest pis ive seen so will go home and put mine to the same perspective.

Steve

Just to say steve, i never fitted it so cant comment wether it fitted or not.

Ben

Wow...following this thread has been a concern...ive had mine on order from H&S for about a month now, hopefully this is not a sign of what's in store for me...especially not for the asking price.

steve there is only one other of these pipes the same..i am down at johns next weekend to fit the new engine..i will have the down pipe off... if you want to come down and photo them together you are welcome alternatively i will take a load of pics..if you could get up we could see if its the car or the pipe by offering yours up to my car

Here are the pics of my H&S downpipe (3" tappering to 2.5"):





I hope you get this issue resolved soon.

The ones i have fitted cant be put on flush and then the nuts after.
You have to wind 2 nuts on first or they wont go on the threads.Then the rest after
And you cant even get a 1/4 drive socket on.About 1/3 of a turn on a crows foot spanner at a time.
Is this how they all are.?

John i really hope not

So far i have only fitted the h&s pipes.
You have to put the pipe up to the turbo with about an inch gap so the threads are just peeking through the holes.Then the top one and lower towards the back have to be wound on.
Otherwise the angle of the pipe makes it impossible to put these on if its flush.

Its actually easier to drop the blower off with the pipe attached in situ.

I did speak to Paul at Motormech and he seemed a helpful chap so might be worth seeing in future if he can fabricate these.
I was going to drop my LE off with him to get a 3'' system made but i managed to get a new blueflame very cheap.

I use a blue flame but the problem is the 2.25 v band so i got a H&S DP to meet it.

Lets hope they sort it.....

Well spoke to H&S today and its i'm booked in for tuesday, lets hope they get it sorted.

As iv've said customer support is good.

Lets just hope they get the down pipe to fit "properley"


Steve

Steve how did this go?? Was thinking of getting a 3" to fit too mine?

Tim

Oh forgot to update this.

As i said perfect customer service.

Went down there they gave me a ramp and I stripped the old one off it lined the new one up and showed them the problem, They said i wouldn't be leaving without it being fixed and i didn't.

They sorted the dent out cut and rewelded the pipe and added a new cradle on their jig (already pretty good) so it won't happen again.

Apart from that i had to drive down there i'm happy and its all sorted.

Steve