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Lightweight flywheel, where from?
#1137528
29/11/2010 13:56
29/11/2010 13:56
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Davie
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Davie
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Hi guys
My car is due for a clutch soon and at the same time would ideally like a lightweight steel flywheel but where can I source one from?
Do the Lancia delta/ alfa 156 share the same flywheel?
If one is not readily available, I guess a bit of lightening to the std flywheel is all that can be done. Does anyone know what grade steel the flywheel is, and by how much it can be lightened?
Cheers muchly for any help
Davie
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1137543
29/11/2010 14:13
29/11/2010 14:13
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Nobby
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Nobby
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Lots of people have lightened flywheels from Barbz
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1137760
29/11/2010 19:16
29/11/2010 19:16
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carlos_vieira
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barbz and cufaro racing cufaro racing have flywheel 4.4kg...
Last edited by carlos_vieira; 29/11/2010 19:17.
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1137811
29/11/2010 21:27
29/11/2010 21:27
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sediciRich
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sediciRich
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what grade of steel is the standard ...that's easy it's Iron!! not steel, which limits how much can be taken off it and where.
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1138199
30/11/2010 17:47
30/11/2010 17:47
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Do the alfa 156 share the same flywheel?
I also would like to know that. Have one from Alfa 156, 4,5kg.
20VT - Alfa 156 2.0 - Alfa 156 Mid-Engined RWD - Locost 20VT
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Nigel]
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01/12/2010 12:46
01/12/2010 12:46
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smokeme
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smokeme
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I don't see the appeal of a lightened flywheel on a Coupe - when I fitted one, the only difference I noticed was that it was far easier to stall the car. I didn't detect any performance gain and when I had a standard item fitted, I didn't notice any performance loss (although I stopped stalling it at every other junction)
Spend your money on something else... - for example, an uprated rear ARB will make a huge difference the only difference i notice is the engine gets easier to rev and improves response, wouldn't do it on a daily driven car though.. not really worth the harder take off especially on hills, feathering the clutch gets old fast 
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Rudidudi]
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01/12/2010 14:04
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Everyone has their own style of driving. As a daily driver though a lightened FW takes a bit of getting used to. When my engine was out last year I had the offer of a lightened FW. Far from being an expert although I had some knowledge how these work, I was tempted. I did more enquiries & in the end decided against, mainly down to the very fact that the guys I spoke to who had done FW mostly said the same, great for the track, but a daily driver it became a bit of a pain.
Then again the speed merchants on here will make up their own minds. Worth having a try before you buy if you can. I only managed to be a passenger, & as pointed out, very jerky, on/off.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: jimboy]
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01/12/2010 18:19
01/12/2010 18:19
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suba
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suba
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My tuned coupe had a lightened flywheel. I've not idea how much difference it made as it was part of a lot of mods that were done at the same time. I noticed no difference at all in everyday driving.
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1138919
01/12/2010 20:53
01/12/2010 20:53
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smokeme
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My tuned coupe had a lightened flywheel. I've not idea how much difference it made as it was part of a lot of mods that were done at the same time. I noticed no difference at all in everyday driving. depends on what you call lightened, mine was 4.5kg lighter and i really noticed the side effects, takes a bit getting used to.. with a paddle clutch it'll be a different story though, it will only agravate the well known problems.. then again a thema is a bit heavier then a coupe which doesn't help either..
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1138975
01/12/2010 23:57
01/12/2010 23:57
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tricky
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Maybe this will help you make a decision, from quite a well respected engine builder. I haven't read through this myself for years admitidly. http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/FLYWHEEL.htmI have run an extremly light FW on an uno turbo, and the mythical side effects were minimal tbh. Much outwheighed by the super fast throttle response.
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1139138
02/12/2010 12:50
02/12/2010 12:50
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Just be VERY aware that you can go too far Youtube video of an exploding flywheel Check out where the bits go - the driver is lucky to have kept his feet - several Mini drivers have lost bits of limbs from flying shrapnel after their lightened cast flywheel has disintegrated
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Nigel]
#1139530
02/12/2010 23:58
02/12/2010 23:58
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johnnybravoturbo
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the only difference i notice is the engine gets easier to rev and improves response, wouldn't do it on a daily driven car though.. not really worth the harder take off especially on hills, feathering the clutch gets old fast laugh
This on its own will be un noticeable,however its rare anyone will go to the expense of doing such a job and actually admit that it didn't do anything. However i am a big fan that lots of little things can make a big difference. Lightening that we do is a series of holes drilled. Not much is taken off.The balancing part is more crucial. But only crucial if the whole bottom end including the clutch is balanced simultaneously
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Nigel]
#1139539
03/12/2010 00:25
03/12/2010 00:25
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tricky
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That looks nasty does'nt it ?
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Saint]
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03/12/2010 01:06
03/12/2010 01:06
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tricky
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10 kg - really ? must just be a coupe thing, I'm 99% sure the integrale 16v wheighs in at 8.4 kg
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Rudidudi]
#1139653
03/12/2010 10:52
03/12/2010 10:52
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Saint
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Yip sure is - billet alloy and steel friction surface - some don't like them due to the different rates of expansion of steel and alloy but I have no trouble in the last few years it has been fitted - both road and some track days. http://www.fidanza.com/Aluminum-Flywheels.aspxif you download the lancia 16v grale and fiat coupe 16vt share the same part, but don't think they do a 20vt part but maybe someone does
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Saint]
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19/12/2010 14:41
19/12/2010 14:41
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Davie
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Davie
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Is the 16vt flywheel the same as 20vt, also what about integrale flywheels are they able to be installed?
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1146100
19/12/2010 15:29
19/12/2010 15:29
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Is the 16vt flywheel the same as 20vt, also what about integrale flywheels are they able to be installed? No, they are not the same. Clutch is though.
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Begbie]
#1146134
19/12/2010 17:43
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Davie
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Davie
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Cheers Begbie!
So can we fit Integrale clutches to the 20vt aswell, or are they a different type? ie push or pull
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1146270
19/12/2010 22:10
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No, same type, only the 8v is push, everything else is pull
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1148783
27/12/2010 15:20
27/12/2010 15:20
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TheAudioGuy
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
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#1148816
27/12/2010 17:27
27/12/2010 17:27
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sediciRich
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I saw that a few weeks ago, his ex-F1 mechanic obviously made the tea, as there is no step in the contact face to preload the clucth correctly, and I wouldn't like to guess if the surface finish was ground or machined, as a machine finish is not suitable for a frication plate. I bet it slipped, hence why its for sale??
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Jimbo]
#1149657
29/12/2010 20:06
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Today received my FW from here..... Part number: 0848 Weight is 4.55 kg. Seems same as my Alfa 156 2.0TS, but i must measure it later to confirm.
20VT - Alfa 156 2.0 - Alfa 156 Mid-Engined RWD - Locost 20VT
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Re: Lightweight flywheel, where from?
[Re: Ferrarist]
#1149845
30/12/2010 13:39
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sediciRich
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sediciRich
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Looks good, they make a lot of stuff and will be at autosport.
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