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MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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09/11/2010 21:17
09/11/2010 21:17
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dave_t
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dave_t
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Has anyone else heard about this? Anyone know if there is any truth to it? http://wrecks2riches.co.uk/2010/10/2011-changes-to-mot/It talks about aftermarket HIDs being specifically examined for (and failed), as well as chipped ECUs (how will they establish that?)
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128028
09/11/2010 21:28
09/11/2010 21:28
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ian251
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ian251
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Air bag light, was that aimed only for the coupè...
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128034
09/11/2010 21:36
09/11/2010 21:36
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shinyshoes
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shinyshoes
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even if it is, and i would imagine so, easy to see if a car has been chipped, why would that be a mot fail? 
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: szkom]
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09/11/2010 21:43
09/11/2010 21:43
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ian251
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ian251
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I passed my mot with the airbag light on (Oh its not a fail if its on, there's me thinking I found a mot guy who's slighty blind)
Last edited by ian251; 09/11/2010 21:45.
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128042
09/11/2010 21:48
09/11/2010 21:48
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duncan78
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duncan78
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Airbag warning is now going to be a MOT failure. i'm doomed ... although as this safety 'feature' isn't on all cars, I don't see how a car can fail a MOT just because it isn't working. How would they know if you just took the warning bulb out.
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128045
09/11/2010 21:52
09/11/2010 21:52
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shinyshoes
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shinyshoes
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Airbag warning is now going to be a MOT failure. i'm doomed ... nah dont worry duncan, just get yourself some black insulation tape and... 
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128048
09/11/2010 21:56
09/11/2010 21:56
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duncan78
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duncan78
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This seriously annoys me  Guess we will see in Dec 2011 exactly what happens. Damn italian electrics
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: whatmoretyres]
#1128053
09/11/2010 22:11
09/11/2010 22:11
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duncan78
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duncan78
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So what's the point in having an option to turn your airbag off then? Seeing as some coupe models have a key in the glove box to turn the passenger side off.
I hope this is BS!
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: whatmoretyres]
#1128055
09/11/2010 22:16
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billa_20vt
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billa_20vt
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I have hids in mine,thinking i should change back for the mot. Shame as they work great in the coupe. Has anyone passed an mot with hids recently,or been stopped?
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: whatmoretyres]
#1128060
09/11/2010 22:30
09/11/2010 22:30
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duncan78
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duncan78
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I've had my coop MOT'd with HIDS in, no problem, even though it is technically illegal (I think?!) due to no washers/adjustment or something nanny-state gibberish.
What's worse is the retro fitted HIDs done in reflector headlights, they do dazzle. The coop has projector style so not a issue.
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128079
10/11/2010 00:11
10/11/2010 00:11
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Paul_H
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Paul_H
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mine passed with Ebay "specials" that I had disconnected the height adjuster for.
I've since fitted better ones (the old ones died) and have reconnected the height adjuster with no issues so far.
Surely if the headlights are adjusted properly so as to stop dazzling other drivers there is no issue? Or is that common sense failing in the eye of the beaurocrat? (sp?)
Paul
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: pinin_prestatyn]
#1128109
10/11/2010 07:31
10/11/2010 07:31
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tim42
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Looks like any modded Coupe will have to be reverted to standard at MOT time...  keep the original bits safe  !
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128110
10/11/2010 08:07
10/11/2010 08:07
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Never heard any of those changes mentioned but I've got a seminar coming up in February so I'll see what VOSA brings up then. The only things I have read is that the battery is coming into the test and they're looking at reading the ECU's for emission data (which won't affect us due to our cars being too old  ) . Baz 
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: ikon]
#1128124
10/11/2010 10:14
10/11/2010 10:14
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MarioCirillo
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Asked my old man who is a qualified MOT Tester and he hasnt heard anything about this either.... Unless it comes from VOSA its just BS IMO 
Proud Owner of Rosso Speed LE041
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: MarioCirillo]
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10/11/2010 11:19
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dave_t
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I do hope it is BS ... since, by definition, the ECU in my Westie is chipped  That Pistonheads thread makes interesting reading though. It does look like there might be something on their radar (in terms of trying to align European rules) It's mentioned in the "Matters of testing" MOT testers' newsletter, issue 48. http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/publications/newsletter...It says Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations. Referring to the EU directive in question: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?...Section 6.1.9 lists 6.1.9. Engine performance - Visual inspection - (a) Control unit illegal modified (b) illegal engine modification Looks like it is coming, but even VOSA don't know how to police it.
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128146
10/11/2010 11:30
10/11/2010 11:30
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DaveM
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Headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility would scupper hids for coupes, nobody's going to get a headlamp certified for a 15 yr old car  I only got hids the other day too, still, will maybe get a years use out of them before I'm forced back to night breakers. Might even persuade me to buy new headlight units 
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: ikon]
#1128157
10/11/2010 12:06
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my mot is due in feburary if this does come into play i will have to remove my hid's Nope, because it's not due to come in until Sept/Oct 2011 at least. I have my own views on this, unfortunately to safeguard my pension, I'd better keep my gob shut, but some of it won't affect us, the ECU stuff for example, but the HiDs, well, just think about the already illegal decats......  Wooosh! What was that?  Oh, that was my pension being pulled from underneath me!  Doh! 
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128187
10/11/2010 13:05
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Morat
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Morat
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I have hids in mine,thinking i should change back for the mot. Shame as they work great in the coupe. Has anyone passed an mot with hids recently,or been stopped? I got an MOT last week with HIDs, they are still fine. I wonder if there will be a new failure "Inactive Ballast lurking suspiciously close to the headlight area"
Last edited by Morat; 10/11/2010 13:06.
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
[Re: ikon]
#1128214
10/11/2010 13:42
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Morat
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Morat
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Not if you are using an exhaust gas analyser, which of course the MOT tester should be....
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128342
10/11/2010 16:54
10/11/2010 16:54
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tim42
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tim42
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Damn it - I'm going to fit my HIDs (which have been sitting boxed up in the boot for weeks) regardless. Picking my son up from school and driving home down the country lanes is hazardous with the OE lamps  . I will fit my Night Breakers in the main beams as well. May try to get an MOT next week first though  , Tim
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128355
10/11/2010 17:33
10/11/2010 17:33
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MarioCirillo
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Here is the FULL Article Make your own minds up I think they need to define Illegal Chippin before we jump to conclusions. Otherwise what they are saying is a ban on Modified Cars... which realistically isnt going to happen!
Last edited by MarioCirillo; 10/11/2010 17:34.
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Re: MOT changes? HIDS and chipped ECUs
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#1128399
10/11/2010 19:03
10/11/2010 19:03
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dave_t
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dave_t
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Thanks Mario  From that it sounds like they've still got a lot of work to do before deciding how to implement the new Directive. Hopefully it'll cause no problems, but it is something we need to keep our eyes on.
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