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GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... #1196483
04/04/2011 22:41
04/04/2011 22:41

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Ordered more goodies, just need to get them here laugh

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1196585
05/04/2011 00:19
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So am I correct in saying this will be a 2L16v turbo GTV??

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1196653
05/04/2011 06:50
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You are indeed correct Marco smile

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1196837
05/04/2011 16:33
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just had another look at this... the iphone does not make it easy!!

this is going to be fun when finished!!

so is it a straight bolt in job then?

where are you planning to fit the SMIC?
looking at the front end of the GTV, you could get shot of the A/C and stick a FMIC in there...

your only up the road from me, im in bedford!
next time your working on it give me a shout and i will see if i can pop up to see how your getting and give a hand if i can!

also, what other goodies you getting for it? smile

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1196904
05/04/2011 19:34
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Luckily my gtv came without ac which in my books is a god send, I was going to see about getting it into it's original location but I'd have to relocate my sidelights as they're integrated into the fogs.

Help would be great as I'm struggling to move the engine as I've not got a hoist shocked rolleyes I do have a block n tackle which I can use to get it in though.

I'm unsure which fmic to go for as the nose of te gtv is quite slim.

As for goodies, walbro fuel pump, bigger injectors and a new turbo which I'd keep limited to 300bhp till I can afford to forge the motor. But these upgrades will be later within the year as just getting this engine in is costing over a grand by itself. Been told by many that it's pointless and stupid shocked

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1196909
05/04/2011 19:44
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Originally Posted By: NineOneSix

Been told by many that it's pointless and stupid shocked


They wont say that when it's running!!!

as for FMIC... May be a slim FMIC for the front when you whip the bumper off, see what space you have then work from there!

Yer, happy to help, drop me a pm!

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1196943
05/04/2011 20:55
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Just had a look, not much space at all, the bumper is almost against the front crossmember

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1197336
06/04/2011 14:04
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Nice project! that little side mount doesn't really look up to the job though, I'd be careful in the summer or your inlet temps are going to be sky high.



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Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1197472
06/04/2011 17:55
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Didn't think it was little tbh, but I dunno what's the optimum size though, the core thickness is about 95mm, I'll have to check height and width mind.

The depth behind my front crossmember is only 54mm and in front I can fit 70mm, but because of the arrow shaped front anything over 300mm wide would show on the top of the bumper even when bonnets closed.

A chap on ao is south Africa cut his front crossmember off and replaced with a tubular steel one placed further forward which gave great depth for a good size intercooler, but I'm not going to go that far.

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1197512
06/04/2011 19:47
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OK measured the intercooler core is, W300xH200xD96 measured in millimeters

Too small??

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1198992
08/04/2011 20:47
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I've been going over the wiring diagrams of both my GTV and the 16VT engine looms, seems that the GTV motronic ECU controls my fuel pump were as the 16VT doesn't.

So, I think I'll have to wire my fuel pump into the master service relay so it kicks in when I turn the key.

Suggestions?

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1199066
08/04/2011 22:38
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No, the 16vt ECU controls the fuel pump: it speaks in a somewhat convoluted way to a double relay up in the top right of the diagram, 35, which is fed with a permanent live. The right hand side is turned on whenever the ignition is live and powers the injector live side (the ECU grounds the injectors) and sundry other bits and bobs.

That live enables the coil on the other half; when the associated terminal is grounded by the ECU on pin 28, the second half of the relay closes and livens the fuel pump and the lambda sensor. The return from the fuel pump is *not* to an earth in the boot (as the 20vt) but via the inertia switch by the driver's knee.


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Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1199101
08/04/2011 23:39
08/04/2011 23:39

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Gonna have to stare at the diagram again and spot it LOL

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1199104
08/04/2011 23:47
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Just realised I missed out a gray connector near the main connector on the loom, going to test it with my multimeter to see the pinout

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1199111
09/04/2011 00:00
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OK fuel pump and injector warning light outputs on this connector. Means I've got all the pinouts accounted for and how to initiate the fuel pump smile

SORTED.

OK, now I should be able to splice this into my loom now laugh

Almost got the GTVs engine loom out, but it kinda goes under the carpet, need to find the connectors to split it away in the cockpit

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1199189
09/04/2011 08:13
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Ah yes, the well-hidden little grey connector from the instrument loom... there's a three-pin connector upstream from that - in the engine bay on the firewall - that picks up the injector warning light and is also used for diagnostic tool connection.


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Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1199195
09/04/2011 08:35
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Perfect laugh think I'll have the motor and wiring in tomorrow.

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1199201
09/04/2011 09:13
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I would love to come and help on a day like today but I've got to look after my mrs, she is not well at all... frown

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1199219
09/04/2011 09:42
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That's OK, not about today anyway, going on a F1 simulator setup in Gatwick smile

Should perhaps setup a days event for something like this on here smile

http://www.puretechracing.com/

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1202529
15/04/2011 22:51
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YAY, finally managed to get the TS OUT laugh

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1202592
16/04/2011 00:45
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Photos and update!!!

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1202617
16/04/2011 06:14
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I'll update later today was a but dark last night lol!

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1203419
18/04/2011 10:09
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Have you got the oil cooler bracket? If you have, no need for fabrication, just undo the drivers side engine mount, slip the bracket over the top of the mount and re-fit the mount


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1203688
18/04/2011 20:03
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Doesn't fit, not deep enough to reach the engine mount about 20mm deeper would then work.

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1203877
19/04/2011 09:21
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You did that with impressive speed!


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Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1203921
19/04/2011 12:20
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Just a couple of simple things to do then I'm driving again, hate public transport LOL

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1207558
27/04/2011 21:33
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Mate!
That is such a quick build!!

Seriously call Joe for drive shafts, he has too many!!!!

You could have it up and ready for brooklands and come with the convoy!!!

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1207570
27/04/2011 21:56
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Hopefully I'll have a pair by tomorrow and fitted on Friday laugh I was pushing for Brooklands! although I also wanted to get her vinyl wrapped also in white, but haven't had the time!

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1207590
27/04/2011 22:40
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If you want, I know a man who does vinel wrapping!
He is going to do my coupe with a clear vinel to avoid stop chips ect

He may be able to do a cash deal!! wink

can't wait to see this at brooklands!!

Re: GTV Q2 Discussion Thread... [Re: ] #1207598
27/04/2011 22:47
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Thanks for the offer but i'm now thinking of a spray job instead laugh I may miss the convoy as I may need the morning to get the tracking done frown depends on how well I do it myself

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