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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
[Re: magooagain]
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18/04/2011 15:49
18/04/2011 15:49
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,312 Sandhurst
Begbie
ex El Presidente
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ex El Presidente
I AM a Coop
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,312
Sandhurst
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Alexis says that i will find the real rust when i get the rear subframe off,and i believe him. Even found a couple of pics when I did the rear subframe 6 years ago I did pull at the underseal on that one, glad I did, ground a lot of it back and went over it with hammerite. Steve, great news  No more man hugs from me now 
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
[Re: gj88]
#1203589
18/04/2011 15:54
18/04/2011 15:54
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,581 London
MrCooper
I need some sleep
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I need some sleep
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,581
London
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[quote=MrCooper]Please, consider doing what Nigel says.
I actually agree with this.
Are my comments so massively off the mark the rest of the time?
Ex Grigio Moon 20VT Plus Ex 350Z Now Aston Martin Vantage
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
[Re: MrCooper]
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18/04/2011 16:01
18/04/2011 16:01
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Steamer
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Steamer
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Hi Steve,just read this post1 Really gutted for you! Only met you the once at MITCAR last year,your a thouroughly decent chap in my humble opinion!!! Your coop looked and sounded superb.You must take up the offers from real freinds and get the coop back on the road. Maybe stay standard for a while then dip your toes gently? Good luck in whatever you decide mate!
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203598
18/04/2011 16:07
18/04/2011 16:07
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duncan78
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duncan78
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I think it's an incredibly difficult decision.
it's easy for anyone to say, scrap the car, don't throw anymore money at it but Steve has put 20k into it over time. If he scraps it now, he'll get some money for parts but no car at the end of it.
It does sound like the Rust issue can be fixed though.
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203599
18/04/2011 16:13
18/04/2011 16:13
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Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,644 Watford
MarioCirillo
Ex El Presidente
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Ex El Presidente
I AM a Coop
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,644
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Its Heart over Head... If my car was like that and I had spent so much on it I would want to try and save it.
Its a though one... im sure that if JBT and his welder are doing the work the subframes will all be removed along with arch liners etc etc if they havent already been!
Proud Owner of Rosso Speed LE041
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203600
18/04/2011 16:14
18/04/2011 16:14
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proccy
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proccy
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I think it's an incredibly difficult decision.
it's easy for anyone to say, scrap the car, don't throw anymore money at it but Steve has put 20k into it over time. If he scraps it now, he'll get some money for parts but no car at the end of it.
It does sound like the Rust issue can be fixed though.
cheers Duncan - yeah that's about how it is, but had the rust been allowed to take further hold it would have been a write off. i sincerely hope i have no need to write anymore of these "drama queen" threads
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
[Re: gj88]
#1203603
18/04/2011 16:21
18/04/2011 16:21
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,386 Staffordshire
Nigel
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Forum veteran
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Steve - seriously, you need to consider this idea - let's take this car as an example http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2679179.htmOne of the best colours (IMHO) and quite local So - how much are you about to spend on saving the leccy-blue? (engine AND corrosion) £2k? £3k? Buy the Moonie at just under £4k, then start selling the bits off your blue Plus - I reckon you would EASILY make £2k, probably a lot more - for example:- Interior - £750 Gearbox - £400 Brembos - £200 Aircon - £100 180mph clocks - £100 Wheels - £400 Body panels -(bonnet, doors etc) - £250? Rocker cover - £75 lockset & ECU - £250 centre console carpet sections £1,000,000  I make that about £2,500 already. then you've got all the other bits, such as:- oil cooler power steering steering rack oil pump alternator battery suspension hubs (assuming your bearings are OK) driveshafts carpets various engine bay components - tanks, covers, radiators, hoses etc THEN you'd have all of the excess bits that you would remove from the Moonie when you fit your good bits from the old car - Stainless exhaust - £150 Brake discs - £40 I reckon you could end up with a perfect car at a NET cost of WAY under a grand Put it this way, my own Moonie cost me a LOT less than £500 after I'd sold all the bits from the Sprinty and the surplus bits off the Moonie Sorry, but I reckon you're mad to try to save the blue Plus, especially when you can make so much money from selling it I'm happy to share my experience of selling the bits and how much I got for them - maybe it will make you change your mind
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
[Re: MarioCirillo]
#1203604
18/04/2011 16:21
18/04/2011 16:21
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proccy
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proccy
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you love it
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203606
18/04/2011 16:29
18/04/2011 16:29
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duncan78
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duncan78
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Steve, you can buy my moonie for 5k  ... engine on 45k 
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203608
18/04/2011 16:30
18/04/2011 16:30
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proccy
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proccy
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Steve, you can buy my moonie for 5k  ... engine on 45k cheers, so generous - but my bank manager just passed out
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203610
18/04/2011 16:33
18/04/2011 16:33
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Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 6,192 Bristol, UK
Hovedan
Forum is my life
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Forum is my life
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Posts: 6,192
Bristol, UK
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Steve, you can buy my moonie for 5k  ... engine on 45k I'll wait til the end of the year Duncan, then you'll be giving me money AND your car 
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
[Re: MrCooper]
#1203614
18/04/2011 16:44
18/04/2011 16:44
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Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,678 Warwickshire
gj88
My life on the forum
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My life on the forum
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,678
Warwickshire
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[quote=MrCooper]Please, consider doing what Nigel says.
I actually agree with this.
Are my comments so massively off the mark the rest of the time?  No. I said "I actually agree with this" because I've already commented congratulating Proccy for his commitment.
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
[Re: gj88]
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18/04/2011 16:58
18/04/2011 16:58
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tim42
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tim42
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Proccy, absolute bug*er of a decision; I would probably take the scrap and build a new one option, but I've only spent £5K on mine (in a year  ). Plenty of lost sleep I'm sure, but good luck in whatever course of action you take. You'll get a lot of help from here whatever, Tim
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203630
18/04/2011 17:34
18/04/2011 17:34
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,386 Staffordshire
Nigel
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Isn't it amazing how a car can go from this to a rustbucket in such a short time Scary and enough to make you think about having the underside checked properly
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203640
18/04/2011 18:10
18/04/2011 18:10
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 548 Oxford
Sean_C
Enjoying the ride
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Enjoying the ride
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 548
Oxford
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I'm going with all the others who have advised getting a donor car to transfer all the bits over mate. It is the best solution me thinks and perhaps the financially less crippling one. All the best though.
Enjoying Coop ownership, second time round . Also enjoying RWD action in a thundering V8 E90 M3.
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Re: And finally, it's another hello from me
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#1203658
18/04/2011 19:00
18/04/2011 19:00
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mayzon
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mayzon
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Nigels idea is by far the best financially but I can see why you would want to keep that perticular car going, after all the blood sweat and tears that you've been through together! Its like saying goodbye to an old friend!
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Re: And finally, it's another hello from me
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#1203675
18/04/2011 19:33
18/04/2011 19:33
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 23,347 North Wales
Theresa
Former Presidentessa Club member 58
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Former Presidentessa Club member 58
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Re: And finally, it's another hello from me
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18/04/2011 19:51
18/04/2011 19:51
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porkypaul
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Re: And finally, it's another hello from me
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#1203706
18/04/2011 20:36
18/04/2011 20:36
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patch234
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patch234
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Steve, welcome along, why don't you consider spending £15.00 and joining the club?
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Re: And finally, it's another hello from me
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#1203739
18/04/2011 22:00
18/04/2011 22:00
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johnnybravoturbo
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johnnybravoturbo
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There is rust all around the undercarriage,typically the later coupes rust worse than the early ones.
9 out of 10 cars i see now i am advising at least surface rust and they all go in the same places.
Without literally removing the sub-frames and the panels were not going to get to all the rust that lies beneath,but we will certainly remove any in sight,and hopefully prolong the life of the car for some time.
As for the belts jumping,the ps pump,idler and tensioner had a 2,mm run out over 20 inches of measurement. As previously thought,the dowels were both missing from the big alloy cast mounting. With the bolts loose you can move the casting side to side nearly 4 mm from top to bottom.
So 2 dowells ordered and hopefully this will see the end to this issue.
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
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#1203744
18/04/2011 22:05
18/04/2011 22:05
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,839 Haslemere, Surrey
Mark_S
Forum is my job
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Forum is my job
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[/quote] plenty of rust around the subframe and rear suspension and according to JBT's welder somewhere in the region of 48 hours welding [/quote] 48hrs WTF
997 C4S
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Re: And finally, it's another hello from me
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#1203751
18/04/2011 22:15
18/04/2011 22:15
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Moosey
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Moosey
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Re: And finally, it's goodnight from me
[Re: Mark_S]
#1203757
18/04/2011 22:24
18/04/2011 22:24
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johnnybravoturbo
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johnnybravoturbo
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[/quote] plenty of rust around the subframe and rear suspension and according to JBT's welder somewhere in the region of 48 hours welding
48hrs WTF  [/quote] 4-8 hours 
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Re: And finally, it's another hello from me
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#1203798
18/04/2011 23:01
18/04/2011 23:01
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mayzon
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mayzon
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Steve, welcome along, why don't you consider spending £15.00 and joining the club? Damn I was just about to copy and paste one of his salesman posts from an older post
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Re: And finally, it's another hello from me
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#1203799
18/04/2011 23:09
18/04/2011 23:09
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proccy
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proccy
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Steve, welcome along, why don't you consider spending £15.00 and joining the club? Damn I was just about to copy and paste one of his salesman posts from an older post you pair of p-taking bar stewards.....
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