Hi i have just bought a 20v turbo plus in electric blue i want to tune it but only mildly, i have bought a gtec 1 chip but is a k+n panel filter as good as dumping the air box and fitting a cone filter please advise thanks

It's the same as a cone filter (plus it will shield from the hea), you just get more noise with a cone type.

fitted my k&n panel over a std paper filter and you hear a low recirc dump valve tshh and seems to pick up nicer
the 57i will sound nicer but suffer heat sink until your moving but you could try an air duct to help cool..
i tried this a number of years ago on a 20vt i took to the ring.
research on here would suggest a good panel filter ideal until you start stage2-3 tuning? then a sip a good option. maybe hardly noticeable in most situations so if so then a case of more or less noise!
both great on these 5 pots!!!!
may be a good idea to fit a boost guage too lance
theres an install guide here on the forum and it really is a simple effective way to keep an eye on the boost.
all the best
mitch

Cone filter - been there done that, had it on the car for one drive and then got rid of it. On a standard car the noise will drown out the engine music completely.

It all depends on what you want Lance, if it's just mildly tuned and it will stay that way then just fit the K&N panel filter and keep the airbox.
It will retain the bottom end torque and sound very nice.

If you are going to mod it further then the cone filter may be worth thinking about, on a mildly tuned engine you may lose some torque at low revs but gain further up the rev range, you will also (depending on where the filter is located) get an awful lot of induction noise, not a nice induction noise either, imagine Darth Vader having an Asthma attack inside a Dyson vacuum and you're close.

Personally I quite like Darth Vader under my bonnet

Me too, another vote for cone......

Thanks guys for the info just bought a k+n panel filter, will get a boost gauge too thanks

ive got a pipercroos panel filter on mine with the air box drilled,some do,some dont.

Ive got a mint k+n cone filter on mine, if anyone fancies a swap for std airbox + panel filter, let me know.

I have tried K&N Cone, K&N Panel and the Apexi Cone Filter, and the Apexi is awesome, sounds great, looks great and retains low end.

Likewise. The huge suuuuuuuckk, tshhhhhhhh noises just makes me sound like a chav in a scooby going up the high street. Reckon a change to a decent panel fitler in the standard airbox will quieten that down a bit, let me hear a bit more of the wonderful exhaust note and not be detrimental to performance.

We're not going to get a swap like this are we? Lets try another angle and go for the geeks: Do you love Star Wars? Do you think Darth Vader is BADASS? Well now you can have the dark lord having an asthma attack seemingly in YOUR glovebox! Get your K+N's here TODAY!

You'll have to try a different angle pinin, my coupe is pretty much star wars themed but I'm sticking with the K&N panel. Nothing should drown out the lovely 5 pot warble.

I agree I'm too old to be a Chav or a boy racer, I will go with the panel filter route and be a valocity test engineer :-)

Just swapped over my K&N 57i cone for an OE airbox with K&N panel. I've only had one drive out in it since changing over (good excuse for some test-drives), so cannot really comment on the performance differences yet, but I can say the noise difference is dramatic. It has really quietened down the induction roar and 'tshhh' from the recirc dump-valve (neither of which I liked very much). Now I can just revel in the sound from the exhaust without sounding (too) chavvy!

Those who like induction and blow-off noises, stick with the cone!

If the OE is too quite for you and the K&N is too loud...Id suggest a ITG Filter...it think it falls in between.

Are people actually still using the K&N..?

The Master Of All AFM-Killerz....

Yes - I've been using K&N for 10,000's of miles with no problems whatsoever.

Yep , me too.

Me three.

I'm fairly sure the K & N's are known for killing MAFs after people clean them incorrectly, as they over-oiling them.

Does anyone have the K and N panel filter part number?

I need to source one here in Canada where no one knows what a Coupe is.

And... Is there a guide to drilling the air box to increase flow?

Paul

For which model (although there may be little or no difference) as your profile gives no clue.

Use a (2" diameter?) hole cutter as often as reasonably possible to retain structural integrity, only on the supply side and nearest any cool air inflow

Drilling the air box gives no improvement at all as proved several times on the rollers. It gives you more noise if that's your bag but nothing else.

It's an often mentioned "standard airbox" modification for Puntos (I've not done so myself), where the airbox is across the front of the engine bay. I was addressing the 'how' not the 'why'. The OP needs to assess these ideas for him/herself.

Hey, each to their own. I was only sharing the experience of others who have tried this. Nigel even went to the lengths of making a variable air box to see if it made any difference- unfortunately it didn't but it was an engineering master piece.

Mityrare, try K&N Pt No 33-2689 as advertised here; http://www.knfilters.com/air_filter/fiat_coupe.aspx

No offence taken nor implied, chum, just contributing to the general information pool.

Jimbo, do you know if there any links to this?