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Re: New make of coilovers
[Re: Begbie]
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16/04/2014 15:04
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Kevin_20vt
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Ask about this problem to frenchs friends, and they says that the inversion between left and right only modify the caster, not the camber...
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Re: New make of coilovers
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16/04/2014 21:09
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Re: New make of coilovers
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16/04/2014 23:10
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Verdict friday evening, camber gauge is on the way...
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Re: New make of coilovers
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17/04/2014 17:25
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Jimbo, Freddan's picture has the 2 bolts closer together like in the other photo I posted.
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: New make of coilovers
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26/04/2014 15:20
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Final verdict for me with the camber gauge :
Bc kit offers 1.2 degrees maximum (with plate and elongated hole set to the maximum).
Plate offer 0.8° (due to the strut conception) and elongated hole 0.4°(what a joke, why they haven't made it larger?!)
Only good points for these : weight is 6 kilos under the FK silverline X and they're really more comfortable on the road.
So i've just to elongate the hole more or buy some camber bolts. Thank you mister BC!
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Re: New make of coilovers
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26/04/2014 17:59
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Kevin i have camber bolts if you need/want them. I am in Mortagne Sur Gironde at the moment but could post them on Friday next.
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Re: New make of coilovers
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26/04/2014 20:58
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Hi Joseph,
It's really kind, i'll keep you in touch. ;-)
Your always welcome to Sauveterre de Guyenne, if want to take the Apero!!! ;-)
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Re: New make of coilovers
[Re: Freddan72]
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28/04/2014 10:22
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Jimbo, if you look again, you will see a tiny black dot on the black outer ring. This is the marker used to determine the camber that has been set. On Freddan's his is all the way over on the markings, whereas, mine isn't Are you sure you have -1 degree? I mean have you been to a wheel alignment shop and checked it? No, thought I would just do it by eye  Of course I've had it checked. I took it to a shop for setting the toe and camber.
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Re: New make of coilovers
[Re: Freddan72]
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12/05/2014 14:26
12/05/2014 14:26
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So, it’s recently been suggested to me that my combined braking and handling problems could be down to worn shocks. This being the case, I may soon be on the market for a new set to replace my current Bilstein / Eibach set-up and this is my first point of call.
To those that took part in the thread, I’m sure it all makes perfect sense, but I’ve just read through the whole thing and, to be honest, I’m still not entirely sure if this is a ‘go-er’ or not…
I see a number of issues or items that were raised during ‘customer testing’ as follows: • Springs potentially not adequately secured • Various spring sizes tested (210mm, 200mm, 180mm) with no confirmation of a ‘final’ • Confusion on whether Dust covers were required or not • The question of weather proofing was asked but not sufficiently answered • Left or Right side indication was not always present
Have all of these been resolved? Have customers that had issues been satisfied with answers or fixes since? Is the kit essentially ‘plug and play’ or do any other parts need to be fitted at the same time?
Is there a full description of the adjustment possible using these coilovers? I’ve read a lot about variable damping and spring rates independent of ride height but it’s all mixed up in a forum thread. From what I can see on the website linked to, to buy from, this isn’t explained.
It looks like a fantastic piece of kit but I can’t help but feel that the whole thread just… stopped until Freddan came back with his camber issues.
What’s the crack peeps?
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: New make of coilovers
[Re: Trappy]
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12/05/2014 23:53
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• Springs potentially not adequately secured
Springs are secured (they cannot leave their emplacement but they have some play when the Coop is on the lift. Nothing problematic, but a bit strange compare to my old FK silverline kit, where the spring support was bolted to the subframe.
• Various spring sizes tested (210mm, 200mm, 180mm) with no confirmation of a ‘final’
I haven't mesure them, but no problem with the lenght (cf upper).
• Confusion on whether Dust covers were required or not
BC says that it is normal that there is no dust cover on the new design kit. For the moment, no problem for me but i've done a very low mileage with it. Wait and see...
• The question of weather proofing was asked but not sufficiently answered
The entire kit is well finished, treated and painted. In my opinion, the best way to resist corrosion and weather is to go to pure stainless steel like FK's. A scratch on BC's paint is a potential way to rust. They need to be clean often (it's specified on the manual) especcialy on winter.
• Left or Right side indication was not always present
In mine (very recent kit made on March 2014) Left and Right side are indicated. BUT there is a problem because the setting proposed is not good. The plates aren't symmetrical and they aren't offering the same caster angle. With the "Indicated Left" plate set on the right, you obtain a more important caster angle, which is better for handling. I had some pictures to make it more understable. ;-)
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Re: New make of coilovers
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13/05/2014 00:02
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Nope, didn't have any on mine either! I think my kit is a new design cause mine aren't symmetrical like Freddan's... It explain why mine are "left and right" indicated but not why the good setup (which offer the best caster angle) is inverted...
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Re: New make of coilovers
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18/06/2014 08:42
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Track day!! On Friday last week I visited a small track called Kinnekulle Ring. I adjusted the coilovers during three sessions in the morning. My car is setup to work okay on both street and track. Summary of the day: Final setupFront dampers: 9 clicks from hard Rear dampers: 7 clicks from hard Front camber: -1 degree Toe: 0 Rear ARB: 22 mm Tire: old Toyo R888 225/45 16" Front springs and damping are okay. More negative camber and more toe out would help a lot. The rear springs are too soft for track days. I am investigating to see if I can use a harder spring with current damper. On the road the car is very nice and stable with this setup. Feels solid. I think BC Racing coilovers is far better than Bilstein + Eibach combo. Before next track day I will buy new tires and maybe add some more negative camber Youtube - Track day Kinnekulle Ring
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Re: New make of coilovers
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18/06/2014 23:43
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Hi Freddan, I've tested the BC for 2 days and 230 kms on a very good track in France (pole mécanique d'Ales), very technical. http://www.pole-mecanique.com/portal/portal/polemeca/circuits/vitesseI'm very please with the set up, and in my opinion rear springs are perfect for trackday. The under-steering completely disappear and a bit of oversteer appears on big brakings and throttle release in curves. It make me very happy cause it's perfectly controllable, and help for the car positioning before curves. Front dampers: 7 clicks from hard Rear dampers: 8 clicks from hard Front camber: -2.3 degree Toe in: 1mm Rear ARB: 22 mm Tire: New RSR595 Federal Hope it can help a bit! Kévin 
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Re: New make of coilovers
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19/09/2014 21:32
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hi, Which set of coilovers is the best? Which kit fits plug & play? Interested in coilovers with adjustable hardness.
How hardness is controlled from a set of rear shock D2?
Is the camber plate from BC Racing are now changed or still need to drill new holes?
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Re: New make of coilovers
[Re: Freddan72]
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30/09/2014 11:35
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Jimbo, if you look again, you will see a tiny black dot on the black outer ring. This is the marker used to determine the camber that has been set. On Freddan's his is all the way over on the markings, whereas, mine isn't Are you sure you have -1 degree? I mean have you been to a wheel alignment shop and checked it? After confusing you with Per at Spa, I had my alignment done last week and it was reset to -1 on both sides, with still plenty of adjustment to go
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Re: New make of coilovers
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01/10/2014 12:24
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Haha  Spa would be nice. Maybe next year. I only managed to get -1.2 with coilovers. I had to add the camber bolts for more camber. Now I have -2.5. I don't understand why you can get so much more camber with just the coilovers. Weard!!! 
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Re: New make of coilovers
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01/01/2015 12:29
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Wich of the springratings did you buy Freddan?
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Re: New make of coilovers
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03/03/2015 19:17
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Any updates with the BC coilovers?
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