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Temporary runabout
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12/07/2014 20:04
12/07/2014 20:04
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wink
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Whilst the Coupe is being restored, I thought I'd get a summer runabout. Something practical, economical and preferably Italian. Here it is!
Last edited by wink; 12/07/2014 20:06.
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Re: Temporary runabout
[Re: wink]
#1498390
13/07/2014 20:36
13/07/2014 20:36
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Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,676 Didcot - Oxon
RusH
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Details please!
Having just chopped in a Discovery 3 which cost a fortune to keep running, even I'm scared of the running costs of these!
Coupe now sold!
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Re: Temporary runabout
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#1498431
13/07/2014 23:29
13/07/2014 23:29
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RusH
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Lovely! Will be very interested to hear how you get on. Got anymore pictures you can post of the car?
What's the plan for the exhaust?
Coupe now sold!
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Re: Temporary runabout
[Re: RusH]
#1503222
15/08/2014 16:28
15/08/2014 16:28
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,988 Sunny Darlo
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What's the plan for the exhaust? Err.... It currently has a Larini sport exhaust which I gather is much prized among the Maseratisti; it's pretty loud in town and my wife refuses to drive it until it's quieter! Keep it as it is!
Up yours Photobucket.
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Re: Temporary runabout
[Re: Gripped]
#1503278
16/08/2014 10:16
16/08/2014 10:16
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Trappy
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Maserati 3200 GT (2001) 1587kgs Turbocharged V8, 32 valve 3217cc
375bhp @ 6250rpm 362lbs/ft @ 4500rpm 236bhp/tonne
estimated figures in red 0-30mph: 2.1 0-40mph: 2.7 0-50mph: 3.7 0-60mph: 4.5 0-70mph: 6.2 0-80mph: 7.5 0-90mph: 9.1 0-100mph: 11.4 0-110mph: 13.6 0-120mph: 17.7 0-130mph: 21.5 0-140mph: 26.0 0-150mph: 32.0
Calculated 60ft (18.3m) (s): 2.37 Calculated 60ft (18.3m) (mph): 34.5 Calculated 330ft (100.6m) (s): 5.78 Calculated 330ft (100.6m) (mph): 67.6 Calculated 1/8 Mile (201.1) (s): 8.68 Calculated 1/8 Mile (201.1) (mph): 87.4 Calculated 1000ft (301.7m) (s): 11.09 Calculated 1000ft (301.7m) (mph): 98.7 Calculated 0-400m (s): 13.22 Calculated 0-400m (mph): 108.3 Calculated 1/4 Mile (402.3m) (s): 13.27 Calculated 1/4 Mile (402.3m) (mph): 108.5 Calculated 0-1000m (s): 24.13 Calculated 0-1000m (mph): 135.9
Actual 0-400m (s): 13.30 Actual 0-1000m (s): 24.20
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: Temporary runabout
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#1503280
16/08/2014 10:35
16/08/2014 10:35
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Nigel
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Fuel consumption seems to be about 17mpg . Start driving it properly then.... When I had one on loan, I struggled to get it to 15mpg I know what you mean about the old-fashioned feel though - quite a 'lazy' car, despite the feeling of constant thrust. Not helped by the proper auto-box, but the manual is a dog - way too much driveline backlash and a proper pain in town Watch out for the traction control - its very crude and you're well sideways before it intervenes
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Re: Temporary runabout
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#1503411
17/08/2014 21:21
17/08/2014 21:21
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Big_Muzzie
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Big_Muzzie
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Didn't cheapo tyres + mas badge = run away at purchase stage? It would have put me off!!
I'm looking at the new quatropotre at the minute and the depreciation is massive, 08 plates from 16k!! Its the service parts costs that scare me.
Have you bought, looked at, tried to get parts yet??
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Re: Temporary runabout
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#1503442
18/08/2014 09:05
18/08/2014 09:05
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Trappy
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This is interesting as a guy at work's brother-in-law has just bought a Manual 3200GT and is regretting it. Apparently the throttle is very digital and he's already looking to swap it for an automatic 4200GT to make it more driveable. I'll ask if he's had it remapped and what tyres it's got but if the manual really is that much of a pig then maybe it's best that he just sell it on.
Sounds like these cars are more aggro than they're worth and, in the scheme of things, not even that fast, especially nowadays...
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: Temporary runabout
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#1503464
18/08/2014 12:07
18/08/2014 12:07
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Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire
Nigel
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When I was loaned a pair of 3200GTs (an auto for two weeks, then a manual for another two weeks), I wrote a review for the forum Have had one on loan now for over two weeks.
I wouldn't buy one [Frown]
Good bits first.
Glorious, tuneful and VERY powerful engine.
Smooth.
Decent auto gearbox.
Nice interior (but not if it's cream leather with burgundy suede headlining [Freak] ).
Can seat four (well two plus two anyway).
Looks different.
Bad bits.
NASTY, nasty, nasty throttle. Its fly-by-wire and waaaaaay too sensitive and light. Can't even feel the pedal below your foot.
Even nastier traction control. Fine if only one wheel is spinning, but sooo easy to light up both tyres, even in the dry. Absolutely lethal in the wet, when it's difficult to pull away from standstill without spinning the tyres due to the crappy over-sensitive throttle.
Car was obviusly built to be an auto. Three pedals only just fit in the footwell. The footrest is about 4cm wide, and your foot rests on the clutch pedal too. With trainers on, when I press the clutch, my shoe touches the footrest AND the brake pedal. Can't be driven wearing large shoes or boots. Turn your foot sideways and you can press all three pedals.
Dead feel to the steering, clutch, gearbox.
Slow gearchange (which may be down to having only done 400 miles).
Dodgy electrics already. First car I had, the clock either gained or lost 3 hours A DAY!. Electric seats occasionally move completely forward whilst parked up. Current car's radio has never worked (only done 400 miles). Also a piece of wiring loom has dangled out of the dash and touches my leg. My ten year old son got his fingers trapped between the seat and the rails while trying to move the seat.
Rattles like a six year old Coop, not a brand new Italian supercar.
Lots of backlash in the drivetrain. LandRover Discovery style clunking on clumsy gearchanges (which is nearly all of them with THAT throttle).
15mpg average [Eek!]
I could sum it up by saying that although the Maserati is stupendously powerful, it is not fast (other than in a straight line).
Give me a bendy A road, and I would have been LOADS faster in my old 20VT. Add a little rain and I reckon I could go faster in a normally aspirated Coupe. It really does feel that remote.
And before anyone says that I can't handle a powerful rwd car, when I got my 355, within two days I could stuff it into a corner, get a bit of understeer, then use the throttle to hold it either neutral or provoke a little oversteer. The 355 is beautifully balanced and you can feel it. The 3200GT is probably as nicely balanced, but you just don't feel attached to what the chassis or the tyres are doing.
Sorry if this bursts your bubble. You may absolutely love the car- just make sure you get a long (half-day?) test drive. Try manual AND auto. If I HAD to live with one, I'd have the auto, simply because the manual is so bad.
Its crap. Sorry.
OK, it ain't total crap, but I would be well pi55ed if I'd just spent £65,000.
If I wanted luxury and pace, I'd buy a second hand Jag XJR (not even an XKR), and spend the change on a Ferrari 348.
355 should be back by the weekend, or early next week. Counting the hours.
In hindsight, I was probably being overly harsh. I still think they are gorgeous cars and I'm pretty sure that the ownership experience will be made more bearable by the strong following they have, and a number of good independent garages I know that the throttle was a very common whinge and that it has been modified by most owners to remove the hair-trigger response God knows what it must be like to drive on budget tyres - I found it extremely wayward on brand new P-Zeros :eek: For some reason, I still fancy a manual Assetto Corsa...
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Re: Temporary runabout
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#1503533
18/08/2014 19:06
18/08/2014 19:06
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Big_Muzzie
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Big_Muzzie
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Are the parts more generic than with late 80's / early 90's. I have a mate with a 430 and most parts are hell or wallet death, im sure rear discs were 500 quid for tye rough casting and needed to be faced! And a rear window 1/4 light was many 100's too!
I guess its part of the beast, tbh I'm not sure id be brave enough to buy one. Much respect and keep us posted on how it goes!
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