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Old scrappage scheme. #1567380
23/03/2016 17:31
23/03/2016 17:31
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Phil Ward, editor of Auto Italia has just emailed me a document listing all 392227 cars destroyed under the scrappage scheme.

142 of which were Fiat Coupes.

Code:
FIAT	COUPE	67
FIAT	COUPE 16V	11
FIAT	COUPE 16V 2DR	1
FIAT	COUPE 16V LE TURBO	1
FIAT	COUPE 16V TURBO	5
FIAT	COUPE 20V	24
FIAT	COUPE 20V 2DR	1
FIAT	COUPE 20V TURBO	30
FIAT	COUPE 20V TURBO LE	1
FIAT	COUPE TURBO	1        


16VT and X1/9 1500

We must all do our part for the planet.
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Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1567382
23/03/2016 17:56
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In the coupe.
Not as many as I thought. But shame though.



Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1567384
23/03/2016 18:41
23/03/2016 18:41

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How much do you get now for scrapping a car?

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1567387
23/03/2016 19:28
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There is a certain red Coupe that the current owner bought unknowingly, that this was a car that had been traded in via the scrappage scheme.
This car then won an award at one of the shows last year.

Don't think he did join the forum.

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1567402
23/03/2016 21:08
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If it's the one I'm thinking of, he hasn't joined the forum.

Didn't know it was an ex scrappage car. Putting them back on the road wasn't supposed to happen, but I do know of a Midget which got through: I was offered it myself.


16VT and X1/9 1500

We must all do our part for the planet.
I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.
Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1567407
23/03/2016 21:37
23/03/2016 21:37

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Yes, it will be Pete. I had a chat with him and told me about it. Apparently it was sorted so no problems.

Just crazey though! The two extremes. A car that was going to be crushed for whatever the reasoning, can and did without any work, or very little win an award!

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1567423
24/03/2016 05:16
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How does a car that was through the scrappage scheme get back on the road?

Sparkyman and myself bought a coupe through the scheme the last time with the intention of breaking it for parts. The car only did 30-40 thousand miles and was one of the cleanest examples i've ever seen! The condition of the car far superseded any of the well-loved road going ones laugh

Just a real shame that examples like these went into the scheme, never to be brought back on the road (legally?) cry

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1567628
25/03/2016 23:36
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Originally Posted By: PeteP
If it's the one I'm thinking of, he hasn't joined the forum.

Didn't know it was an ex scrappage car. Putting them back on the road wasn't supposed to happen

Hmmmmm! coat

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1567633
26/03/2016 08:05
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One wonders how many cars were not actually put through the scrappage system: if a car came in worth - unknown to the owner - somewhat more than the two grand, a dealer might 'scrap' it for two grand without logging it as such, and then resell for a profit.


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Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: barnacle] #1567639
26/03/2016 09:54
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Originally Posted By: barnacle
One wonders how many cars were not actually put through the scrappage system: if a car came in worth - unknown to the owner - somewhat more than the two grand, a dealer might 'scrap' it for two grand without logging it as such, and then resell for a profit.


These are dealers trying to sell new cars though. I doubt they would want the hassle of trying to sell an old fiat laugh
I'm not sure what the exact mechanism of the scheme is.. But I believe that the dealer would also need to log in the scrap in order to be rebated back the 2 grand discount on the new car that they just sold?

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: barnacle] #1567648
26/03/2016 10:33
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Originally Posted By: barnacle
One wonders how many cars were not actually put through the scrappage system


There was an article on BBC news site in the last week or two about car lots full of cars from the scrappage scheme that hadn't been scrapped but couldn't be released for sale. I can't find it now though.

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: ] #1567651
26/03/2016 10:39
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Originally Posted By: GrahamL
Originally Posted By: barnacle
One wonders how many cars were not actually put through the scrappage system


There was an article on BBC news site in the last week or two about car lots full of cars from the scrappage scheme that hadn't been scrapped but couldn't be released for sale. I can't find it now though.


I saw that - and signed the related petition. However, according to Cappo (a friend of his knows the facility in question), it's old news and the associated pics were taken a couple of years ago. It seems that the cars are now gone.

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: Kelv27] #1567664
26/03/2016 13:21
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Originally Posted By: Kelv27
Originally Posted By: barnacle
One wonders how many cars were not actually put through the scrappage system: if a car came in worth - unknown to the owner - somewhat more than the two grand, a dealer might 'scrap' it for two grand without logging it as such, and then resell for a profit.


These are dealers trying to sell new cars though. I doubt they would want the hassle of trying to sell an old fiat laugh
I'm not sure what the exact mechanism of the scheme is.. But I believe that the dealer would also need to log in the scrap in order to be rebated back the 2 grand discount on the new car that they just sold?


Outed through car auctions, most part-ex's and such are put through auctions by main dealers when over 3 years old etc.

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Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: Submariner] #1567873
30/03/2016 04:54
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Originally Posted By: Submariner


Outed through car auctions, most part-ex's and such are put through auctions by main dealers when over 3 years old etc.


Yeah through auctions which they don't really make money from. They just want rid of the car..thats why it goes out through auctions.

Re: Old scrappage scheme. [Re: PeteP] #1571151
26/04/2016 15:01
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Interesting info, thanks to Phil and Pete for posting


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