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Rarest 20VT in the world? #1630178
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Hello all, introducing my 2001 20VT. I like to think it's quite unique. I’m the first and only owner with 6,030 miles on the speedo. All original, no mods. Cheers.

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Very nice, Malaysia right? And no mods, apart from the badges on the rear (not to my taste however)


1996 Portofino 20vt & 2000 Pearl White Plus
1985½ & 2016 2017 Fiat 124 Spider + XF Sportbrake
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Originally Posted by DaveG
Very nice, Malaysia right? And no mods, apart from the badges on the rear (not to my taste however)


Yes, removable badges, nothing screwed in.

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In the best colour too! :-)

Hardly run in at that mileage. And I know that to keep micro miles on a car is difficult, and expensive in making sure maintenance isn't skipped.

A real tribute to the Coup-I imagine there can be few in the world with as low mileage.

MM

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Thanks. Car’s garaged, serviced and maintained in Kuala Lumpur while I live in in Melbourne mostly. Hence, the low mileage. Have a very good mechanic in KL, specializing in Coupes and Alfas, who keeps the car humming.

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Fantastic, great to see a museum model!

Re: Rarest 20VT in the world? [Re: ryvinson] #1630223
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Welcome ryvinson. Your car advert has been a real talk of the town around here in KL!

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Originally Posted by Gunzi
Fantastic, great to see a museum model!



Thank you.
Interestingly, I just read a post on a 20VT imported from Japan with 8,298 miles on the clock, asking for £19,940 in Autotrader.
I guess I have bought and sold enough assets to not scoff at any asking price, as there’s always a taker(s) out there for any asset at any price. Always. It all boils down to luck and/or timing.
One of the car pics in Autotrader did strike me as odd though - that one giveaway pic is not consistent with the low mileage or age of the Japanese 20VT. I’d know as my car’s just 2,268 miles short and 2001 manufactured as well. I’m sure there’s a good reason(s) for that glaring inconsistency.
Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Kelv27
Welcome ryvinson. Your car advert has been a real talk of the town around here in KL!


Good to know, thanks.

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Read another post on a Coupe red key and service booklet going for £500 on Gumtree. Believe it or not, someone, who’s a sucker for completeness like yours truly, will surely buy them!

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Originally Posted by ryvinson
Originally Posted by Gunzi
Fantastic, great to see a museum model!



Thank you.
Interestingly, I just read a post on a 20VT imported from Japan with 8,298 miles on the clock, asking for £19,940 in Autotrader.
I guess I have bought and sold enough assets to not scoff at any asking price, as there’s always a taker(s) out there for any asset at any price. Always. It all boils down to luck and/or timing.
One of the car pics in Autotrader did strike me as odd though - that one giveaway pic is not consistent with the low mileage or age of the Japanese 20VT. I’d know as my car’s just 2,268 miles short and 2001 manufactured as well. I’m sure there’s a good reason(s) for that glaring inconsistency.
Cheers.


What inconsistency is that? Or am I being thick?

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As the car’s on sale, it would be bad form to identify the ”inconsistency”, which I could be wrong as the observation was based on a pic.

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Originally Posted by ryvinson
As the car’s on sale, it would be bad form to identify the ”inconsistency”, which I could be wrong as the observation was based on a pic.



In that case your caveat might be "in your opinion" perhaps?

Lovely coupe you have btw cool


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Most certainly my opinion. Thanks.

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The customised set of 17-inch alloys for the 20VT, an initiative by the local Coupe club then, was the best buy for the car. Inexpensive, they’re visually stunning on the car and fit like a glove. More importantly, they’re sparing the original alloys from wear and tear and damage by potholes aplenty in KL. Yes, a labour of love in keeping the car mint and original lol.

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Very nice Coupe ryvinson! Those alloys look great on the car and do indeed serve a practical purpose too!

What kind of cars do you usually have on the roads in Malaysia/KL?

Is it mainly boring ones or are there quite a few exotic models? How does the Coupe compare in terms of standing out?

Oh and whatever happened to this Malaysian Coupe?

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Thanks.

Type of cars here? You name them, KL has them all, from a poor bloke’s old banger to a tycoon’s latest supercars.

Coupe’s standing? Very niche with a small group of hardcore enthusiasts.

The bluey Coupe pictured? First time seeing that and clueless as to its whereabouts.

Cheers.

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Plenty of elbow grease - the weekly wash and vacuum, even though it’s garaged and infrequently driven. The paintwork is as it was on the day I drove the car out of the showroom. It has never been resprayed.

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Very nice, are the wheels still available?

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Thanks.

No, I don't believe they (the 17-inch) are available now, even as used, as they were a one-off production run 10 years ago. I stand corrected on the cost of about £270 then for a set of 4 rims of export quality. If I recall correctly, no more than 20 sets were produced.

Cheers.

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A brilliant day!

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Fiat surely didn't apply shoddy workmanship to the interior, still looking good after 18 years although not Connolly leather lol.

Sabelts to lend a touch of colour.

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When a German meets an Italian, it can only be a good thing.

My well loved 6-year old bro from Munich.

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Looks like the car is in beautiful condition, the badges however are truly awful and spoil the aesthetics/lines hurl

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Lol. A matter of personal taste. All badges stuck on to keep car stock. Am stocked up on ”ricambi originali” badges, which are easily loosened, stolen or damaged given conditions here. The badges should be as rare as hens’ teeth to buy new today.

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Understandably, being fast even by today’s standards, 20VTs will be driven hard by most owners. What is hard to understand is why many 20VTs are not as well maintained, with second-hand values falling through the floor.

The conditions of many pre-owned 20VTs on sale here are simply shocking, earning the 20VT an undeserving bad rap. They’re not even worth the dirt-cheap asking prices.

The fast speed of 20VTs has been its curse, with many already souped-up, and beaten up on tracks and country roads on a budget. The requisite periodic and specialist maintenance just do not correspond to their hard usage. Sad.

Oops. My bad-day-in-the-office rant. Lol.

The epic Sunday wash below.

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They went through that stage about 5 or 6 years ago in the UK.

It got rid of a lot of dogs with boy racers ragging them to death as they were a cheap way of buying high speed.


16VT and X1/9 1500

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Ownership is a labour of love, it is an enthusiasts car for sure, which if driven and used as was intended demands what some perceive as higher maintenance costs...given the low outlay for the car some in the era Pete mentions failed to maintain the cars as required...for me the biggest outlay has been bodywork and the treatment and prevention of the 'hidden' rust traps the car has due to the environmental conditions in the UK. The mechanics of the car in standard form (well a Gtec) have been bombproof for me save for the expected maintenance of belts, clutch and suspension arms, droplinks etc.

The 'developing world' conditions of many of the roads in the UK now and the use of salt in Winter has proven to have taken its toll on the Coupe many of which are/were used as every day drivers.

Your style of ownership (hardly ever driven) is now more the norm with many of the remaining vehicle's being driven minimally in the Summer months, pampered etc as a second or third etc car,

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