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Silicone hoses #1632686
20/05/2019 20:57
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Where are you lovely bunch buying your silicone hoses from! I’m looking for both sets (black) air and water.

Last edited by mrc; 20/05/2019 21:15.

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Re: Silicone hoses [Re: mrc] #1632704
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Re: Silicone hoses [Re: mrc] #1632804
24/05/2019 21:13
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Originally Posted by mrc
Where are you lovely bunch buying your silicone hoses from! I’m looking for both sets (black) air and water.


Orignal poster asked the same question in other thread - Marketplace/Parts wanted, and got multiple replys.
In the end, these are/were recommended (both threads):

WATER:
Flexeo kit - 11 pcs - € 249 inc VAT
Viper performance - 10 pcs - gbp 157 ex VAT
Midlands servicing - 12 pcs - gbp 160 ?? VAT

BOOST / AIR
Flexeo kit - 6 pcs - € 189 inc VAT
Merlin motorsport - Samco 6 pcs - € 193 ex VAT

* Flexeo and Viper also sell only "COHD"
* only Flexeo does inlet "doughnuts - € 59 inc VAT for 5pcs kit."
* only Flexeo does oil hoses kit (2pcs) and sells separately various other hoses."


I'm in the same position as original poster, and it seems Flexeo is the best option.
My questions are:
1. are there any notable differences in quality?
2. how important are differences in number of pieces of water hoses (10 vs. 11 vs. 12)
3. how durable/ permanent are silicone hoses - eg. is CHOD replacement "fit and forget" or should it be replaced in 5 years
4. is there any feedback on longevity regarding color - eg. do RED hoses degrade more due to heating / heat soak of the red colored surfaces?

confused

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: gturcic20vT] #1632812
25/05/2019 06:53
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Originally Posted by gturcic20vT
Originally Posted by mrc
Where are you lovely bunch buying your silicone hoses from! I’m looking for both sets (black) air and water.


Orignal poster asked the same question in other thread - Marketplace/Parts wanted, and got multiple replys.
In the end, these are/were recommended (both threads):

WATER:
Flexeo kit - 11 pcs - € 249 inc VAT
Viper performance - 10 pcs - gbp 157 ex VAT
Midlands servicing - 12 pcs - gbp 160 ?? VAT

BOOST / AIR
Flexeo kit - 6 pcs - € 189 inc VAT
Merlin motorsport - Samco 6 pcs - € 193 ex VAT

* Flexeo and Viper also sell only "COHD"
* only Flexeo does inlet "doughnuts - € 59 inc VAT for 5pcs kit."
* only Flexeo does oil hoses kit (2pcs) and sells separately various other hoses."


I'm in the same position as original poster, and it seems Flexeo is the best option.
My questions are:
1. are there any notable differences in quality?
2. how important are differences in number of pieces of water hoses (10 vs. 11 vs. 12)
3. how durable/ permanent are silicone hoses - eg. is CHOD replacement "fit and forget" or should it be replaced in 5 years
4. is there any feedback on longevity regarding color - eg. do RED hoses degrade more due to heating / heat soak of the red colored surfaces?

confused










I will try to give some opinion on your questions.

The difference in quality would in my opinion be hard to know as I doubt anyone has bought and used all the different makes of hose.
From my point I have a full set of Booster silicon water hoses. They have been on at least 5 years on my track car. They are still fine. I have had a few of them off the car while doing work and I have inspected them and are all still good.

Nearly all the French coupe owners use Flexeo kit. So that must tell us something.

As far as how many to buy,that's up to you but the more you have has to be a better option.

I have tow or three spare coloured sets of water hoses that sit in my barn and a set get taken as spares for track days. They are sitting about for years not on the car. They are viper I believe.



When I first replaced the original hoses at 45,000 miles there was not much wrong with any of the originals.


When running a coupe like I do on track there is no such thing as fit and forget.

Last edited by magooagain; 25/05/2019 07:04.


Re: Silicone hoses [Re: mrc] #1632936
29/05/2019 21:09
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Im pretty sure my Dda had the Booster ones and a few of them were fraying and getting weak and the chod burst too.
I think JBT gets some high quality ones, cant rmember the name of them but my Dad got them ones in the end, much better quality.
Speak to JBT


Now in the 400+ bhp club!
Re: Silicone hoses [Re: mrc] #1632945
30/05/2019 16:41
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Viper Performance

Do a kit for the Coupe (Kit 074), very good quality and they also do the clips for them too:

viper-performance.co.uk

Think its Edward, who deals with all the orders, can't remember if they do club discount

Sg

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: mrc] #1633043
03/06/2019 13:19
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Samco also do a boost hose kit unless they have stopped manufacturing it....


Coupe now sold!
Re: Silicone hoses [Re: magooagain] #1633624
28/06/2019 21:05
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Originally Posted by magooagain


I have tried to buy hoses from Flexeo (link provided).
I've created account, activated it, logged-in, but when I select product(s), there's no prices or options to "buy" / "add to cart" / "order" or similar?

As a check, I have searched random other parts, different car brands (eg. Alfa, Peugeot etc) and spares type, there's no prices or options to buy on any of them?
I'm sure I've seen the options to buy a few weeks ago, when I searched the prices for various brands (Samco, Viper etc). It was on the same computer. Now I've even tried swintching web browsers... no use. frown

Is the site down, is it only possible to buy during "normal" working hours? confused

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: gturcic20vT] #1633670
01/07/2019 20:29
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I've tried Motorstore.fr during the day, 10am, 2pm, 5pm... Still no prices or a way to buy stuff.
Can anybody spare some time to check the site?

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: gturcic20vT] #1633680
02/07/2019 15:02
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Originally Posted by gturcic20vT
I've tried Motorstore.fr during the day, 10am, 2pm, 5pm... Still no prices or a way to buy stuff.
Can anybody spare some time to check the site?


Same for me I'm afraid.
No prices or 'buy' button on anything.

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: Dazvr6] #1633682
02/07/2019 16:41
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Originally Posted by Dazvr6
Originally Posted by gturcic20vT
I've tried Motorstore.fr during the day, 10am, 2pm, 5pm... Still no prices or a way to buy stuff.
Can anybody spare some time to check the site?


Same for me I'm afraid.
No prices or 'buy' button on anything.






Have you opened an account?



Re: Silicone hoses [Re: magooagain] #1633684
02/07/2019 17:57
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Originally Posted by Dazvr6

Same for me I'm afraid.
No prices or 'buy' button on anything.


Ok, thank You.

Originally Posted by magooagain

Have you opened an account?


I did, created account, activated it, logged in... No prices or way to buy, the site looks the same whether logged in or not.

I've sent them message with website contact form on Friday evening, still no reply. rolleyes

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: mrc] #1633687
02/07/2019 20:39
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I've now also left them a message.

A French member has been waiting for a delivery for a while now.



Re: Silicone hoses [Re: mrc] #1633688
02/07/2019 20:48
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There are some sellers on AliExpress selling silicone water hoses kits for Coupe 16vt and 20vt. Have you checked them?

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: 386ka] #1633705
03/07/2019 19:14
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Originally Posted by 386ka
There are some sellers on AliExpress selling silicone water hoses kits for Coupe 16vt and 20vt. Have you checked them?

Thank you for the tip.
Someone on the forum wrote that eBay / Aliexpress hoses become brittle after a few years. From the specs, they are 3 ply, and I think Flexeo and Viper are 4ply, and have a smoother surface - from the photos just look better made.
Anyway, I'm after Air/boost hose kit, and also wanted to buy CHoD and inlet doughnuts from Flexeo.

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: magooagain] #1633725
05/07/2019 11:19
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Originally Posted by magooagain


Got response from Flexeo - they are in inventory, the website should be back online in a few days! cool

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: gturcic20vT] #1633744
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Originally Posted by gturcic20vT
Originally Posted by magooagain


Got response from Flexeo - they are in inventory, the website should be back online in a few days! cool






Thanks for that. It would of been easy for them to have put a message up on thier web page to say they were in inventory.

We will just have to watch that space.



Re: Silicone hoses [Re: magooagain] #1633747
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They are back online, prices visible. One can also immediately check availability - if "Add to cart" button is faded, it's not available.

July 5, 2019, 20v turbo parts:
AVAILABLE - Water and oil hoses are available, full kits and some independent (eg. only CHoD), in various colors.
OUT OF STOCK - Intake/boost hose kit (all colors), inlet doughnuts also (red states "made to order", 30 days after payment) cry
...I've sent them email if Coupe "out of stock" items are slated for production in foreseeable future.

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: mrc] #1634419
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Got reply from Flexeo France / Motorstore.fr
I asked for availability of hoses that were marked as unavailable on their website - air/boost hoses, inlet doughnuts and CHoD.
Quote ( with their approval):

contact.motorstore@gmail.com

This is the list of details :
FL-0190 = Available only in Blue but can order in Black, need 3 weeks to received.
FL-0075 = In producing, available in 3 weeks in Black, Blue, Red
FL-0114 = Available in Black, Blue, Red

They don't do discount for FccUK members, only in case of group buy.
Hope it helps. smile

Re: Silicone hoses [Re: gturcic20vT] #1634429
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Originally Posted by gturcic20vT
Got reply from Flexeo France / Motorstore.fr
I asked for availability of hoses that were marked as unavailable on their website - air/boost hoses, inlet doughnuts and CHoD.
Quote ( with their approval):

contact.motorstore@gmail.com

This is the list of details :
FL-0190 = Available only in Blue but can order in Black, need 3 weeks to received.
FL-0075 = In producing, available in 3 weeks in Black, Blue, Red
FL-0114 = Available in Black, Blue, Red

They don't do discount for FccUK members, only in case of group buy.
Hope it helps. smile


Thanks for thr update and their contact details thumb


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