Our 2018 trip when we were heading home via Stelvio pass around beginning of October, there was a bit of snow in some areas at the top but all roads clear and mainly like a summers day though completely appreciate its different at the top. Then when we stopped at the top for a walk with the dogs it was starting to snow so quickly jumped back in the coupé and sprinted off back down the other side.
I would imagine a bit of a detour is required if you ended up at Brescia then? We will be at the Stelvio pass mid September so a couple of weeks earlier than on the last trip.
I don't know when you're planning to go, but I've my own Alfa 159 Ti 2.4 JTDm tour of European countries in the works:
France, Belgium, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria to Grangesises, below Sestriere in the Western Italian Alps for a couple of weeks... But wait! There's more... After that, south through Italy, eventually dropping in on a friend in Bari, then on to Brindisi and the ferry to Igoumenitsa, Greece, to meet another friend, possibly in Athens depending. Onwards once more to Bulgaria and Sofia City for another two weeks there. After that it's return via whatever route seems more appealing, my breathed-on Alfa Ti really does motor!
If I can keep abreast of your planned dates, I may be able to meet up with you for a bevvy and a chin-wag.
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It be a shame not to if our paths cross along the journey. Our trip is mid September. With a route through the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland and into Italy via Stelvio and into Bormio. When are you going?
Would you mind giving some basic (bullitt points perhaps) How it works and approx’ budget please.
Cant for the life of me figure out how to get a table on here so this will have to do for now but I do have a document if you require.
So basically we have planned after we get off the ferry is 3 overnight stops to get to Garda, 7 nights stay on lake garda, then 3 overnight stops for the return journey to the ferry.
The ferry is over night from Newcastle to IJmuiden Netherlands and sails at 5pm and arrives next morning in IJmuiden at 9.
Bear in mind costs below are approx although we have now booked all our accommodation and ferry and I just need to tot it all up.
Day Overnight Stops Route Miles Driving Time
0 Newcastle to Ijmuiden 150 miles 18 hours 1 Ijmuiden to Limburg 245 miles 4 hours 2 Limburg to Neuschwanstein 290 miles 5 hours 3 Neuschwanstein to Bormio Via Stelvio 128 miles 5 hours 4 Bormio to Garda 127 miles 4 hours 5 Garda 6 Garda 7 Garda 8 Garda 9 Garda 10 Garda 11 Garda to Nufenen Via S. B Pass 240 miles 4 hrs 12 Nufenen to Karlsruhe 260 miles 4 hrs 30m 13 Karlsruhe to Dusseldorf 210 miles 3 hrs 30m 14 Dusseldorf to Ijmuiden 150 miles 2 hrs 15 Newcastle to Home 150 miles 3 hrs
Ferry - £302
Fuel - £375
Based on 63 litre tank, £1.35 fuel per litre, £85 to fill tank, Full tank range 430, 4.5x tanks to complete journey (does not inc day trips).
7 nights Lake Garda accommodation Classic Plus Room Halfboard - 884GBP
6 nights accommodation whilst travelling through Europe - 500GBP
Breakdown Cover is advised ??? Could be included in Insurance Policy – If through Hagerty Insurance - £200 approx again.
Switzerland Vignette - 35 euro
Total - 2200GBP but not including food costs whilst travelling or spending money.
Last edited by Rosso; Yesterday at20:13. Reason: Cost update
Thanks Alan feeling very lucky to be doing the trip in the coupé.
Our route from the ferry takes us through the Netherlands with 1 stop in the North of Germany and 1 stop in the south, into Switzerland and then Italy driving the Stelvio Pass with a total of a 1000 miles. We then have a similar return but via the San Bernardino Pass and again 1000 mile.
I can't say I know Netherlands, Germany or Switzerland well either to be completely honest but what I can say I completely appreciate what beautiful surroundings they are on that journey and something that is missed by jumping on a plane.mmm the coupe got to be less polluting than a plane
If you are driving through Switzerland on the main highways you need a vignette (windscreen pass) that costs CHF 40 (approx EUR 40) and is valid for the calendar year, even if you only need it for a day. Or you can risk driving without one...
Driving through Austria is cheaper, you can buy passes for 10 days EUR 9.40, 2 months EUR 27.40 or 1 year EUR 91.10
Plus you'll need an emergency triangle, hi-vis vests for all car occupants, first aid kit, spare bulbs, etc. You're supposed to carry a breathalyser in France and could be fined for not having one, but the fine continues to be suspended, so you don't really need one, despite what the Ferry companies / Eurotunnel would have you believe. Headlight beam deflectors are of little use, but show that you have at least tried (I never bother any more)
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