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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Edinburgh] #1640314
30/03/2020 21:18
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Do you know what would be more out of touch than this video in the current situation?

A celebrity wiping their ass with a wad of cash in front of a person who can't find any toilet rolls anywhere!

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640315
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Experienced "a first" yesterday, Monday. Had my regular six monthly consultation with my GP over the phone.

My GP, a recent import from Scotland, phoned me at the appointed time to review some tests I had undertaken over the last few months and to renew my 6 monthly prescription for the one drug that he has me on.

All was good, as expected, and it was, "see you in six months time". He also thought it was great that I had a few bottles of Vino Rosso on hand to keep the cholesterol down in these troubled times.


Re: Coronavirus [Re: Possum] #1640334
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Originally Posted by Possum
He also thought it was great that I had a few bottles of Vino Rosso on hand to keep the cholesterol down in these troubled times.



That's all the justification I need. laugh drink drink drink (as there's no wine emoji) beer beer

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Gripped] #1640344
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Most people will leave their homes like this when the lockdown is finally over...

Freedom!

Re: Coronavirus [Re: MeanRedSpider] #1640405
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Originally Posted by MeanRedSpider
Well, I now have symptoms - relatively mild though I’ve taken to my bed. I think that’s all of us in the last few days and no two are the same. Frustrating not to have a test because, once you know you’ve had it, you could be one of the 250,000 volunteers etc.


How are you all doing Richard?


Just heard this morning that my youngest Ben whom some of you have met as a regular at the Carlisle Christmas meet has come down with it, feverish this morning after feeling iffy for a few days. He and his wife and two small kids have had suspected colds and a cough, however he has type 1 diabetes to cope with as well.


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Edinburgh] #1640416
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Originally Posted by Edinburgh
Originally Posted by MeanRedSpider
Well, I now have symptoms - relatively mild though I’ve taken to my bed. I think that’s all of us in the last few days and no two are the same. Frustrating not to have a test because, once you know you’ve had it, you could be one of the 250,000 volunteers etc.


How are you all doing Richard?


Just heard this morning that my youngest Ben whom some of you have met as a regular at the Carlisle Christmas meet has come down with it, feverish this morning after feeling iffy for a few days. He and his wife and two small kids have had suspected colds and a cough, however he has type 1 diabetes to cope with as well.


I’m OK, thanks, but still not completely right. I had a lot of the classic symptoms of a mild to moderate infection: dry cough but not too bad, fever around 38C, muscle aches (especially lower back and legs) and very slight tightness of chest. Now I’m just exhausted easily.

I hope Ben recovers quickly - age does seem to be the key factor.

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640422
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frown I hope Ben gets better soon and the rest of the family are ok!

I hope you feel better soon MRS too!

Please do stay away from your family and friends where possible. I haven't been to my Mum's for weeks and haven't seen my grandsons for weeks neither, as I'm scared of passing anything on to them frown

Things at hospitals are changing on a daily basis and nothing is looking any better at the moment, so please take all the precautions you can.

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640424
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Thanks T smile It must be said you are one of the vital people helping us all at the NHS so stay safe!

One of our gang of four involved in our project car is also in hospital, he has underlying health conditions and is not doing too well atm. He's on maximum oxygen and we've got all fingers crossed....


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640467
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Fingers firmly crossed for him Edinburgh!

Got to say - I think people have on the whole done an amazing job staying in - its like day of the triffids out there!

But when Politicians start threatening people that they may be stopped going out all together (Mat Hancock live tv interview Sunday 5.04.2020) then they risk loosing the good will of the populace.

We are getting through this - some good signs coming from Norway and Czech Republic who are looking to return to normal. We just have to keep at it a little bit longer.

Hope all are doing well!

Regards

MM

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640483
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How are doing MRS? I hope you're recovering?

How's Ben, Simon? Also, how's the one in your gang? I hope he's ok.

Have you watched the comedy Still Game? Tell Chris (think he's your son in law?) that he reminds me of Tam laugh

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Master_Mariner] #1640484
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Originally Posted by Master_Mariner

But when Politicians start threatening people that they may be stopped going out all together (Mat Hancock live tv interview Sunday 5.04.2020) then they risk loosing the good will of the populace.


This.

When a member of the government stands on his hind legs in front of the cameras and states "This is not a request, it is an order" it means nothing more than that he has forgotten that he is there to represent the people. It didn't even seem to occur to him that he doesn't hold his position by divine will nor that his 'order' is effective only as long as people choose to obey it.

As long as the government is saying 'please do this, for this, this, and this reason', and the action and the reasons make some sort of sense, then the majority of the populace will go along with it; when they say "do this or else" then their ability to enforce is the limiting factor... and there are a lot more people out here than there are in the house of parliament or even the police and army. And if sufficiently displeased, people *will* do things that are not in their best apparent interest.


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640485
09/04/2020 07:49
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There is the Rule of Law, problem is the conflict between Statute and Government guidance....for instance the law does not state you cannot drive somewhere to take your daily exercise. Most people are going along with the guidance but as ever there are those in abundance who are incapable of following the law, rules and guidance in their lives, that said the there are legal differences on what can and cannot be done in England NI, Scotland and Wales. I guess there is governance by consent in the UK in the purest sense, my take is it is far more like an 'elective dictatorship'.

What is more concerning for me is the 'snooper/grass' website forms that have been introduced for UK citizen's to fill in to inform the police on possible Covid contraventions by their neighbour's especially given the police are logistically incapable of effectively ensuring a (full) lockdown.....mirroring how the Nazi's were able to get German society to self police and grass on their neighbours through the SS/Gestapo's Army of Spies; thereby allowing the Nazi's heinous policies and actions to be enforced and tolerated through instilling the sense of duty and causing fear/terror and paranoia; such policies set a worrying precedent in the UK. The lack of Parliament sitting is also concerning given the issues and personalities within the Tory Cabinet and larger clique.

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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640488
09/04/2020 12:35
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Originally Posted by Theresa
How are doing MRS? I hope you're recovering?


I’m pretty good, thanks, T, though it’s taken me much longer to get nearly properly right than I thought. Today is probably the first day that I’ve felt mostly normal.

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640489
09/04/2020 13:39
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Originally Posted by Theresa


How's Ben, Simon? Also, how's the one in your gang? I hope he's ok.

Have you watched the comedy Still Game? Tell Chris (think he's your son in law?) that he reminds me of Tam laugh


Chris was my er, future intended son-in-law, but that didn't make it in the end. However he and Ben are still mates as you can see from his regular attendance at Carlisle and he is still a friend to Mrs Ed and myself.

Ben's temp was reading normal this morning thank goodness. His 4-year old daughter has just contracted chicken-pox! rolleyes

Fortunately my daughter who normally lives in Holland with her significant other is back over here, along with him, and they have been able to supply Ben and family with provisions, paracetamol and calamine care packages cool

Yes indeed, Still Game is something I've watched since the outset, many years ago, and love the characterisations - the storylines often have pathos as well as downright directness and have a strong community ethic even if they are often knocking six verbal bells out of each other laugh

I don't know if I want to tell Chris he reminds you of Tam though laugh

George is still in hospital after a week on oxygen, we need him to turn a corner ...


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640496
09/04/2020 17:03
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At least you're feeling better MRS, that's good news, even if it has taken longer than expected.

Simon-I'm glad Ben's temperature is normal now, although a shame about his daughter contracting chicken pox! Better now than later in life I suppose.
Still Game is brilliant laugh Chris only reminds me of Tam due to the accent and blonde hair laugh Chris won't mind anyway and will probably find it funny laugh

Still game wasn't available to anyone outside of Scotland, but now it's on Netflix, it's worth telling everyone how good it is smile

I hope George recovers and am sure he's being well looked after and I wish him all the best.

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640522
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I thought this news might be 10 days too late for April fools day, but it seems that it's taken until 11th April for BBC production medical drama Holby City to donate fully working ventilators from its set at Elstree to be used in London's new NHS Nightingale Hospital. The corporation shared the news in a tweet, with a photo of workers unloading equipment from a van.

While clearly this is welcome news, it's probably a good job they made this gesture before the press / licence payers became aware.

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640530
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I think it's strange that Holby City/Casualty even had working ventilators, etc on their set!

Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640534
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Originally Posted by Theresa
I think it's strange that Holby City/Casualty even had working ventilators, etc on their set!



I thought that as well Thersa........ chinny


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640546
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I suspect it's a case of someone suddenly remembering that it was cheaper to have the real kit instead of expensive props...


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: barnacle] #1640549
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I have this sinking feeling that the UK have been caught with our pants down with C19. When Germany was on with mass testing and tracing this was the comment from the Leader of the House:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f727NW9KeuA

2nd March this was - fast forward to 12th April and we have an excess of 10k dead shocked cry grr

I think when we get through this serious questions really need to be asked.

In the meantime everyone do take care and hope any club member, family or friends who has this flippin virus fully recover to full health .. smile


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I think you're right, there's going to be some very difficult questions that need to be asked. I saw an interesting article by Noam Chomsky that although written from a US perspective is worth a read. For example:

1) Two months before the novel coronavirus is thought to have begun its deadly advance in Wuhan, China, the Trump administration ended a $200 million pandemic early-warning program aimed at training scientists in China and other countries to detect and respond to such a threat

2) The Obama administration had recognized the potential problem. It ordered high-quality low-cost ventilators from a small company that was then bought by a large corporation, Covidien, which shelved the project, apparently because the products might compete with its own high-cost ventilators. It then informed the government that it wanted to cancel the contract because it was not profitable enough


3) As recently as March 2, the Trump Administration was encouraging American businesses to increase exports of medical supplies, especially to China. Yet, during this period, the U.S. government was well aware of the harms of COVID-19, including a likely need for additional respirators and masks. So manufacturers and middlemen made money in the first two months of the year shipping medical supplies out of the country, and now they’re making more money in the next two months shipping them back in.

https://truthout.org/articles/choms...id-19-we-must-imagine-a-different-world/
https://truthout.org/articles/choms...es-the-cruelty-of-neoliberal-capitalism/

Re: Coronavirus [Re: cyborg7] #1640551
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Interesting read Cyborg frown

Pandemic impact on the UK was identified as a Tier 1 threat back in 2010 (similar to the likes of cyber attack and terrorism) and still remains a Tier 1 10 years on. So what's been done to plan for this eventuality? Irrespective of what the virus may be surely PPE is a given in any situation and they would have slowly stockpiled in preparation. This isn't a case of hindsight - it was fully on HMG's radar! The Dunkirk spirit of Mrs Miggins in readiness with her sewing machine to stitch masks just ain't good enough.. grr


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640552
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It's not an acceptable situation regarding the PPE but when you realise that a lot of the red tape in terms of blockages is on the Chinese side, as already said they have been buying up large amount of the stock effectively removing it from access, some of this is outside of our control. PPE does not have an indefinite lifespan either. Out of date or faulty PPE is also useless. Whatever failings there are at some point there will be a review that identifies them, and big business that manipulates things in the background so that they are effectively ignored. Its how our world operates.


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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640553
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Yes - we need to learn from this. But I do believe we had the PPE stockpiles, we didn’t have the means to effectively distribute it.

We probably need to keep this all within the perspective of the things people die of every day and some of the lack of provision that exists there. The big difference is that we are largely all affected by this.

I thought it was rather ironic Boris thanking the Portuguese and NZ nurses that looked after him. Most of the nurses and doctors that looked after Eve were non-Brit but fab and many (most?) left in the light of the Brexit vote leaving the ward/hospital short-staffed.

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We make PPE in the UK, there is a place in Witney that makes masks, eye protection, face shields etc. In fact at the end of Jan, the place I work sent out 100+ face masks out to our Shanghai distributer as they couldn't get any over there.

The UK Government knew how bad it was going to get when the Chinese didn't go back to work after their New Year - and seemingly did nothing to plan for it.




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Re: Coronavirus [Re: barnacle] #1640745
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Originally Posted by barnacle
Originally Posted by Master_Mariner

But when Politicians start threatening people that they may be stopped going out all together (Mat Hancock live tv interview Sunday 5.04.2020) then they risk loosing the good will of the populace.


This.

When a member of the government stands on his hind legs in front of the cameras and states "This is not a request, it is an order" it means nothing more than that he has forgotten that he is there to represent the people. It didn't even seem to occur to him that he doesn't hold his position by divine will nor that his 'order' is effective only as long as people choose to obey it.

As long as the government is saying 'please do this, for this, this, and this reason', and the action and the reasons make some sort of sense, then the majority of the populace will go along with it; when they say "do this or else" then their ability to enforce is the limiting factor... and there are a lot more people out here than there are in the house of parliament or even the police and army. And if sufficiently displeased, people *will* do things that are not in their best apparent interest.




Yes totally Barnacle.

The police actually stopping people to check their shopping bags-and to then determine if what they have bought was what they considered to be "essential" has not helped the cause.

good news from Sweden-where they have not shut down. And from Czech republic and Germany where they seem to be on the verge of lifting lockdwo rules.

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Originally Posted by Submariner
There is the Rule of Law, problem is the conflict between Statute and Government guidance....for instance the law does not state you cannot drive somewhere to take your daily exercise. Most people are going along with the guidance but as ever there are those in abundance who are incapable of following the law, rules and guidance in their lives, that said the there are legal differences on what can and cannot be done in England NI, Scotland and Wales. I guess there is governance by consent in the UK in the purest sense, my take is it is far more like an 'elective dictatorship'.

What is more concerning for me is the 'snooper/grass' website forms that have been introduced for UK citizen's to fill in to inform the police on possible Covid contraventions by their neighbour's especially given the police are logistically incapable of effectively ensuring a (full) lockdown.....mirroring how the Nazi's were able to get German society to self police and grass on their neighbours through the SS/Gestapo's Army of Spies; thereby allowing the Nazi's heinous policies and actions to be enforced and tolerated through instilling the sense of duty and causing fear/terror and paranoia; such policies set a worrying precedent in the UK. The lack of Parliament sitting is also concerning given the issues and personalities within the Tory Cabinet and larger clique.


Yes - and at least one Police chief has released a video saying in his view " things will NEVER go back to what people used to thing of as normal".

on the website to the force he belongs to -front page when you log in- is an on line form asking people to tell if they THINK they see someone breaking lockdown rules. Time, place, date, name, descriptiuon- picture or video if you can, ring 999 if necessary.

Stalin would be pleased. I find it very worrying. Much more worrying then covid frankly.

lets hope that we are through the peak and getting back to a normal way to live. it may be the cabin fever talking - but sitting inside is not what humans are meant to do.

Regards

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I pretty much agree with what MM says. Certainly the powers under the new act are quite draconian and potentially far reaching. Most of my former colleagues around the country are going for a common sense approach to the law- so no change there. In fact the last thing any cop I have spoken to really wants to do is be heavy handed although it does happen. They want to be catching the scrotes and snafus that make everyones lives a misery.

There of course will be occasions where the response doesn't seem proportionate, and where an heavy handed approach is taken, and also those helped by the small piece of the overall video footage that supports the viewpoint. Peel said 'the police are the public and the public are the police' so its logical that there are going to be a few arseholes that slip into the job, as that's representative of the public in general. Most abide by the law (or the laws that are important to them), and most cops (and ive managed thousands) want to do a good job.

Even in normal situations there are those who don't think the law applies to them, those who aren't interested in the spirit of the law, those who will stretch it as far as possible to see what they can get away with. Its the policing by consent bit of the 'agreement' between police and public that will get tested the longer the lockdown continues. Normally most people only see the police when something bad has happened, and that's what is changing as officers have to speak to those who wouldn't have had any interaction before- usually while sunbathing on their own away from anyone else.

Edit* all fuelled by the great british 'why let the truth get in the way of a good story' media.

I found the Nazi reference an interesting comparison though, there are already a plethora of mediums to report concerns about what people think may be happening be it Crimestoppers, Prevent or otherwise.

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Re: Coronavirus [Re: Theresa] #1640779
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Quite frankly any comparison to the SS/ Gestapo /Spies is ridiculous ..........

The Govt has to be seen to have powers to stop the idiots who are flaunting any lockdown rules .

Yes loads of mistakes/ issues with how, almost all Govt's have handled this ,and some far better than ours, mainly the usual countries who are mega efficient---- Germany ,Switzerland ,Sweden .....who's population, in the whole, mainly does what is asked of it.

I am 62 I don't want to catch it ...jujst incase I am one of the unlucky one ,to me its like playing Russian Roulette ,we have no idea who the virus is going to pick next.

So I'm sorry to say until this is cleared up by a vaccine or whatever ,or until the lockdown is lifted if I see my neighbours having parties ...I would be one of the ones who would phone the Police and ask to have it stopped !!!


And err exactly what my 29 year old daughter did in London with her neighbours last week . She wasn't too concerned about herself ,but she has neighbours on both sides of this party that are over 80 .......she was thinking of them .

Play the game and none of the police measures are relevant , but unfortunately ,there are too many selfish A'holes out their that make having these rules necessary.

stay safe and we will all come out the other side ..........

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