Fiat Coupe Forum
- Founded by Kayjey & James Northam
- Funded by the Club for the benefit of all owners
Fiat Coupe Club UK
join the club
Fiat Coupe Forum
 
» Announced
    Posting images


» Related sites
    Main club site
    fiatcoupe.net


» External data
    owners listed
 
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 323 guests, and 5 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums69
Topics113,543
Posts1,340,421
Members1,785
Most Online731
Jan 14th, 2020
Top Posters(All Time)
barnacle 33,520
stan 32,122
Theresa 23,294
PeteP 21,480
bockers 21,070
JimO 17,917
Nigel 17,366
Edinburgh 16,659
RSS Feeds
Club Events
Club Information
Track Events
Rolling Road/RWYB
Social Events
Non-UK Events
Coupé Related Chat
Coupé Spotting
Coupé News/Press
Buying/Selling Advice
Insuring a Coupé
Basic FAQ's
How to Guides
Forum Issues
Technical Problems
General Maintenance
Styling
Tuning
Handling
ICE and Alarm
Coupés for Sale
Coupés Wanted
Parts for Sale
Parts Wanted
Group Buys
Business Forum
Other Vehicles for Sale/Wanted
Other Items for Sale/Wanted
Haggling/Offers
Ebay links
Other Cars
Other Websites
General Chat
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Engine configurations #1641844
17/06/2020 13:45
17/06/2020 13:45
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
R
respace Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
respace  Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
R

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
I've always been a little dubious about odd numbers of cylinders, Coop apart of course although even then I went for the 16vt first time around. 2 cylinders seems okay if a bit puny, I think Diahatsu made a 3 cylinder, which sounds odd to me although I had 3 cylinder bikes without problem, 4 is fine, 5 well Coop and Volvos made some good ones but VW make a V5 which sounds weird, 6 straight or V fine, 7? nope, 8 great, 9 no, 10 ok but as it's 2 lots of 5?, 11 no, 12 fine, 13 no way.
I believe RR made a 16, which I think features in a Johnny English film and the Merlin was 28 I think.
I guess my unease is about balance if I were trying to pin it down.

Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641853
17/06/2020 18:29
17/06/2020 18:29
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,783
In the coupe.
magooagain Offline
Club Member 259
magooagain  Offline
Club Member 259
Forum is my life

Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,783
In the coupe.
What about a six cylinder diesel with a two cylinder petrol starter motor?



Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641858
17/06/2020 19:58
17/06/2020 19:58
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 16,659
Auld Reekie
Edinburgh Offline
Club President, member225
Edinburgh  Offline
Club President, member225
Forum veteran

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 16,659
Auld Reekie
A tractor, ripe for modding laugh


BumbleBee carer smile
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641859
17/06/2020 20:00
17/06/2020 20:00
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Gripped Offline
Club member 1924
Gripped  Offline
Club member 1924
Forum is my job

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
One of my fav things (how sad am I?)

A large part of my decision to get a Coupe 20v was that it had more than 4 cylinders. I just wanted something other than the usual 4 cyl car.

I had considered:

- Mazda 323 F (V6)
- Triumph GT6 (Straight 6)
- Corrado VR6 (not strictly a V6, as the engine has a single head, but the cylinders are in a narrow angle V within the same head.
- Rover P6 3500 V8. offered to me by uncle, but was too long for my garage and was rustier than the Titanic.

I like triple engines, and I fancy a Triumph or a Yamaha MT09 / Tracer next which are both triples. As I understand it, the triple layout is quite well balanced, possibly smoother than a straight 4.

Due to emissions regs etc, there are loads of 3 cylinder cars on the market now (most with turbo's to make up the power deficit). Most notable is probably the new Fiesta ST, which makes similar power to the old 1.6 4 cylinder turbo, but is a 3 cylinder 1.5 turbo. VAG make 3 cylinder in their smaller cars e.g. Seat Ibiza, Skoda Fabia and Polo.

I think Fiat are the only manufacturer to make a car with a twin (correct me if I'm wrong) - in the Twin-air. They do sound like motorbikes (at least motorbikes with 2 cylinders) nerd

It's all about the aural pleasure for me. I like the sound of engines, and the 5 cylinder burble is unique, in that it is kind of offbeat, yet sounds so good. As you say, Audi, Volvo make them - the famous Audi Quattro for example and VW 5 cylinder diesels, plus Fiat's own JTD 2.4 diesel, which I believe is based on the petrol 5 cyl and sounds pretty good for a diesel. VW also did V5 engines, with a similar layout to the VR6. BMW has the famous straight 6 in various forms.

Bugatti's W16 engine.... absolutely awesome, with 4 turbos.
Lambo / Audi V10 - like 2 straight 5's on steroids. (Or Joe FCSS's Tourareg with the Boeing 747 towing V10 TDI).

The Merlin was a V12, just very large at 27 litres. Generally, I find V12s a bit too quiet and smooth, because that's what they're meant to be in luxury cars. I think the Aston V8 sounds better than the V12, but personal preference.

Love V6s too. I really really MUST have an Alfa V6 at some point.

V8's great - American muscle car sound depending on firing order. The Ferrari Dino 308 had a V8 that sounded (to me) like a straight 4 cylinder. A bit disappointing. I'd still like one though.

Flat 4 - Scooby or Alfa Sud / Sprint. The Scooby has a burble like the 5 cylinder due to the different lengths of the exhaust headers (I think).

2 Stroke (Saab rally cars)

Then we come to firing orders:

Take the Yamaha R1 - flatplane engine. It's an inline 4, but sounds like a V4.... check it out on Youtube.

I had a Honda VFR800 with the famous V4. Absolutely loved the sound, like a NASCAR V8 after 7,000 rpm and the VTEC kicked in.

Then you have rotaries, radials...

Then there is the whole subject of locomotive engines. The Napier Deltic being my fav..

Anyway, beer is making me ramble, so I'll stop now. coat

Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641861
17/06/2020 20:16
17/06/2020 20:16
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,852
Cambridge & Cotswolds
M
MeanRedSpider Offline
Je suis un Coupé
MeanRedSpider  Offline
Je suis un Coupé
M

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,852
Cambridge & Cotswolds
I’ve had:
V-Twin - BSA FW32 car
3-cyl - smart Roadster Coupe
Flat 4 - Alfa Suds, 33s, 2.5 Outback, VW, Impreza
Straight 4 - Alfa Giulia, and lots of others
Straight 5 - Coupe Fiat, Alfa 156 JTD
Straight 6 - Merc E320cdi
V6 - Merc E320cdi, Alfa 164, Merc SL350

Re: Engine configurations [Re: MeanRedSpider] #1641862
18/06/2020 01:07
18/06/2020 01:07
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,645
J
JKD Offline
Forum is my job
JKD  Offline
Forum is my job
J

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,645
What I want to know is, is there a better sounding V6 than this?

Turn your speakers up for these videos...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vcVzvglry_M
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad1XphQUj1Q

Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641865
18/06/2020 07:12
18/06/2020 07:12
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 16,603
Corridor of Uncertainty
J
Jim_Clennell Offline
Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell  Offline
Forum veteran
J

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 16,603
Corridor of Uncertainty
Don't forget the rotary. Everyone likes a nice Wankel.

Re: Engine configurations [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1641867
18/06/2020 08:23
18/06/2020 08:23
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Countrycruising Offline
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Countrycruising  Offline
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Forum veteran

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Originally Posted by Jim_Clennell
Don't forget the rotary. Everyone likes a nice Wankel.


I really enjoyed owning an RX8, meters/gallon were a little hard to live with though crazy

Re: Engine configurations [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1641869
18/06/2020 08:30
18/06/2020 08:30
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,090
highlands
jimboy Offline
Club Member 857
jimboy  Offline
Club Member 857
Forum is my life

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,090
highlands
Originally Posted by Jim_Clennell
Don't forget the rotary. Everyone likes a nice Wankel.


You can hear those cars cuming

Last edited by jimboy; 18/06/2020 08:31.

I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
Re: Engine configurations [Re: jimboy] #1641870
18/06/2020 08:42
18/06/2020 08:42
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Countrycruising Offline
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Countrycruising  Offline
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Forum veteran

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Originally Posted by jimboy
Originally Posted by Jim_Clennell
Don't forget the rotary. Everyone likes a nice Wankel.


You can hear those cars cuming



Omg that was terrible Jim................ laugh

Re: Engine configurations [Re: Countrycruising] #1641871
18/06/2020 09:07
18/06/2020 09:07
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,645
J
JKD Offline
Forum is my job
JKD  Offline
Forum is my job
J

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,645
Originally Posted by Countrycruising
I really enjoyed owning an RX8, meters/gallon were a little hard to live with though crazy


So Joe, was having a Wankel a hands-on experience for you?

Re: Engine configurations [Re: Countrycruising] #1641872
18/06/2020 09:16
18/06/2020 09:16
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,090
highlands
jimboy Offline
Club Member 857
jimboy  Offline
Club Member 857
Forum is my life

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,090
highlands
Originally Posted by Countrycruising
Originally Posted by jimboy
Originally Posted by Jim_Clennell
Don't forget the rotary. Everyone likes a nice Wankel.


You can hear those cars cuming



Omg that was terrible Jim................ laugh


Hey Joe they do jerk as well wink


I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
Re: Engine configurations [Re: jimboy] #1641873
18/06/2020 09:34
18/06/2020 09:34
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
R
respace Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
respace  Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
R

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
Originally Posted by jimboy
Originally Posted by Countrycruising
Originally Posted by jimboy
Originally Posted by Jim_Clennell
Don't forget the rotary. Everyone likes a nice Wankel.


You can hear those cars cuming



Omg that was terrible Jim................ laugh


Hey Joe they do jerk as well wink

I think the Mazda might but the NSU (Not So as U'd notice.

Thanks for putting me right on the Merlin I knew 20 something was involved but CC not cylinders! Now don't get me started on CCs, in the old days you knew where you were, 125, 250, 500, 750, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500. 3000 etc, generally the bigger the engine the more power. Nowadays you get small engines producing more HP than big ones and odd sounding capacities; 305, 380, 550, 600, 800, 1150, 1400. I know some have come about as result of legislation but how often has the actual cc corresponded to what the maker calls it, 998 aside.

Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641882
18/06/2020 13:08
18/06/2020 13:08
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,366
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,366
Staffordshire
I find this website simple, yet very entertaining and informative

http://www.animatedengines.com/

@Gripped - you forgot the square four, as used by Ariel (and nicknamed the "Squariel")


[Linked Image]
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641886
18/06/2020 15:10
18/06/2020 15:10
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Gripped Offline
Club member 1924
Gripped  Offline
Club member 1924
Forum is my job

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Ah of course Nigel. As in the Suzuki Rg500 Square 4.

Motorbikes are a good platform to try different engines. Moto GP had 5 cylinder bikes recently.

Nice to have a thread which prompts some good discussion smile

Ps regarding the Merlin, there's a guy on YouTube who made a motorbike engine from a Merlin by chopping the end of the engine off. So it was a 4.5 litre V twin!!


Last edited by Gripped; 18/06/2020 15:15.
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641887
18/06/2020 16:22
18/06/2020 16:22
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
R
respace Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
respace  Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
R

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
Didn't Barry Sheene ride the 500 Suzuki before they made a road one? I had the 2cyl 2 stroke back in the day, I also had the BMW RS which often became a 'flat single' when the rain got in the ignition coil, got quite lively when it started firing again just as you were going into a corner on full revs!

Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641888
18/06/2020 16:54
18/06/2020 16:54
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,366
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,366
Staffordshire
Originally Posted by respace
, got quite lively when it started firing again just as you were going into a corner on full revs!


I used to get the same with a Kawasaki triple - middle pot used to catch all the spray from the front wheel and eventually killed the spark, which occasionally cut back in at inopportune moments... Being a two-stroke, it also use to chuck unburned fuel and lube oil out of the exhaust when it was running on two pots - not good for traction.

@Gripped (again...) - don't forget the following oddities:-

Honda two stroke V3 (two pots pointing forward, one pot vertical)
Brough 'H' four - like a boxer, but the pistons on each side always travelled in the same direction (unlike the boxer)
Moto Guzzi transverse(!) V8

and not forgetting the way-before-its-time Honda 750 NR - V4 with 8 valves per cyclinder and oval pistons


[Linked Image]
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641890
18/06/2020 17:52
18/06/2020 17:52
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
R
respace Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
respace  Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
R

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
The Kamikazi Triple! Deadly in so many ways; no engine breaking, poor brakes and none too good handling! (To name but 3)

Re: Engine configurations [Re: Nigel] #1641894
18/06/2020 21:53
18/06/2020 21:53
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Gripped Offline
Club member 1924
Gripped  Offline
Club member 1924
Forum is my job

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Originally Posted by Nigel


and not forgetting the way-before-its-time Honda 750 NR - V4 with 8 valves per cyclinder and oval pistons


I loved the NR. Incredible machine. Still looks good now. A real piece of Jap exotica.

Developing the Honda 3 cylinder layout idea... The VFR1200 is a V4 but has the 2 front pistons positioned wide with the 2 rear sat side by side so it's narrower where the rider sits. Somehow they managed to remove the lovey V4 sound and replace it with a fart in a tin can. Still fancy one though.... 170bhp bike.... But titchy fuel tank.

I've just thought of another. The "big bang parallel" twin in the BMW F800 series where both pistons go up and down together with a balance shaft going in opposite direction. Basically like a big single.

Oh, and the firing intervals of parallel twins theses days tending towards 270 degree to mimic the V twin but cheaper and more compact design of the parallel.

Currently bike less after last year, had a Kwak 650 twin with a 180 degree interval, great for torque but it did sound a bit like a lawn mower at idle. Chug chug chug.

I like the move to 3 cylinder cars as the sound rorty.

Let the engine nerdery continue!

nerd
nerd
nerd


Last edited by Gripped; 18/06/2020 21:59.
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641895
19/06/2020 08:41
19/06/2020 08:41
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,366
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,366
Staffordshire
I'm bike-less too - haven't had one for a few years after I realised that a big part of the enjoyment of riding in my younger years was the company I kept. Riding on your own is nowhere near as much fun

My last bike was a Buell X1 Lightning - 1.2 litres of thumping v-twin. 100bhp and 100lb-ft made for an entertaining ride. Ridiculous vibrations at idle, but completely smooth as soon as some revs were on. Handling was utterly sublime and could often embarass some supposed sports bikes.


[Linked Image]
Re: Engine configurations [Re: Gripped] #1641928
20/06/2020 13:58
20/06/2020 13:58
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 776
State of Essex .
robcoupe20vt Offline
Enjoying the ride
robcoupe20vt  Offline
Enjoying the ride

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 776
State of Essex .
Had a RG500 Suzuki back in 2006with Nikkon pipes when they were affordable . Remember when they came out in 1985 and i was a fan of Barry Sheene . The square four was nearly identical to the RGB 500 at the time in grand prix . Also had 4 RG400
Bought this Honda MVX250 which is a V3 in 2005 . Two piston facing forward and the back piston upright . It was the opposite to the GP NS500 which had two cylinders at the back and one forward facing cylinder I miss this bike more than the RG500 . To counter balance the vibration from two pistosn against one the rear piston is the same weight as the two forward ones . It worked
https://ibb.co/qyQ4Hpx

https://i.ibb.co/xYxpSbj/DSCF0001.jpg


Fiat 20VT
Fiat 16vt
Fiat 130TC
Fiat 131 sport
Kawasaki ZX6RP7F Kawasaki GPZ550 Kawasaki ZX7R P2
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641945
20/06/2020 18:17
20/06/2020 18:17
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,520
Berlin
barnacle Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
barnacle  Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
Forum Demigod

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,520
Berlin
Hey Respace, what have you got against seven cylinder engines? Or nines? One of each here...

Neil


Attached Files
Last edited by barnacle; 20/06/2020 18:17.

[Linked Image]
Don't get no respect! Coupe Fiat 1994-2000 - an owner's guide <-- clicky!
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641947
20/06/2020 18:51
20/06/2020 18:51
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 21,480
Aldershot
PeteP Offline
Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary
PeteP  Offline
Hon Club Member 005, Membership Secretary
Forum Fossil

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 21,480
Aldershot
You will be showing us photos of rotary engines next Barnacle, like this one:

Gnome Monosoupape as used by WW1 fighter aircraft.

Attached Files
Gnome Monosoupape.png (95 downloads)
Last edited by PeteP; 20/06/2020 18:52.

16VT and X1/9 1500

We must all do our part for the planet.
I unplugged a row of electric cars that nobody was using.
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641955
20/06/2020 20:54
20/06/2020 20:54
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
R
respace Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
respace  Offline OP
Enjoying the ride
R

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 947
Dorchester
Not convinced,nine and seven are just plain odd, literally and metaphorically, weird, how would you feel about 13? Nothing against rotary, theory is good, practice somewhat less so. If it could be made to work they'd be on to something.

Re: Engine configurations [Re: robcoupe20vt] #1641957
20/06/2020 21:05
20/06/2020 21:05
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Countrycruising Offline
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Countrycruising  Offline
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Forum veteran

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Originally Posted by robcoupe20vt
Had a RG500 Suzuki back in 2006with Nikkon pipes when they were affordable . Remember when they came out in 1985 and i was a fan of Barry Sheene . The square four was nearly identical to the RGB 500 at the time in grand prix . Also had 4 RG400
Bought this Honda MVX250 which is a V3 in 2005 . Two piston facing forward and the back piston upright . It was the opposite to the GP NS500 which had two cylinders at the back and one forward facing cylinder I miss this bike more than the RG500 . To counter balance the vibration from two pistosn against one the rear piston is the same weight as the two forward ones . It worked
https://ibb.co/qyQ4Hpx

https://i.ibb.co/xYxpSbj/DSCF0001.jpg


I owned an RG500 back in 1991, Stan Stephens stage 2, coming from a GPZ 750 turbo it was mental and I've never riden anything like it since, a pillion passenger was impossible.

Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641965
21/06/2020 10:11
21/06/2020 10:11
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 776
State of Essex .
robcoupe20vt Offline
Enjoying the ride
robcoupe20vt  Offline
Enjoying the ride

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 776
State of Essex .
"Stan the man" in Kent . I would have loved to have a go on one of his stage 2 tuned RG500s When i had mine even back in 2006 20 years after they came out i was impressed with the power of the bike and i had a ZZR1100 at the time also . Mine was dynoed at 76.7bhp at the wheel standard except for the nikkon expansions So your're stage 2 must have been around 95bhpish at the wheel which is nearly 200bhp per litre ? The rear seat was ridiculous . One bike i always wanted was the GPZ750 turbo even if i had a choice between that and a GPZ900R .GPZ750 TURBO was the best effort from the big four japanese motor cycle makers at the time Aircooled but fuel injection and turbo charged Promo video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSy2c1ULik

Last edited by robcoupe20vt; 21/06/2020 10:15.

Fiat 20VT
Fiat 16vt
Fiat 130TC
Fiat 131 sport
Kawasaki ZX6RP7F Kawasaki GPZ550 Kawasaki ZX7R P2
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641976
21/06/2020 19:55
21/06/2020 19:55
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,520
Berlin
barnacle Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
barnacle  Offline
Club Member 18 - ex-Minister without Portfolio
Forum Demigod

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 33,520
Berlin
Originally Posted by respace
Not convinced,nine and seven are just plain odd, literally and metaphorically, weird, how would you feel about 13? Nothing against rotary, theory is good, practice somewhat less so. If it could be made to work they'd be on to something.


Nine and seven are just surprising; no odder than finding a five under a bonnet... I think an inline wouldn't be made simply because the benefits wouldn't be worth the cost. But I can see a fairly compact V7 being possible, or a three-bank triple for a 9.


[Linked Image]
Don't get no respect! Coupe Fiat 1994-2000 - an owner's guide <-- clicky!
Re: Engine configurations [Re: robcoupe20vt] #1641987
22/06/2020 08:28
22/06/2020 08:28
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Countrycruising Offline
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Countrycruising  Offline
Club Rep Europe, member 914
Forum veteran

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,114
FCSS 01684 593187
Originally Posted by robcoupe20vt
"Stan the man" in Kent . I would have loved to have a go on one of his stage 2 tuned RG500s When i had mine even back in 2006 20 years after they came out i was impressed with the power of the bike and i had a ZZR1100 at the time also . Mine was dynoed at 76.7bhp at the wheel standard except for the nikkon expansions So your're stage 2 must have been around 95bhpish at the wheel which is nearly 200bhp per litre ? The rear seat was ridiculous . One bike i always wanted was the GPZ750 turbo even if i had a choice between that and a GPZ900R .GPZ750 TURBO was the best effort from the big four japanese motor cycle makers at the time Aircooled but fuel injection and turbo charged Promo video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSy2c1ULik


I never had mine anywhere near a dyno but another mate had a standard RG at the time and mine always had the lead on him, most of the time with the front wheel in the air crazy One of my biggest regrets was selling the 750 turbo, it was super quick for its day and so easy to ride but they were never popular back then, factory turbo bikes never developed any further then 2x models from memory, the Kawasaki and a dodgy Honda CX 650 model which used to boost spike in interesting places, big 4x's went on to become the street racing Exup's and Fireblades, high rpm screamers to what we have today, modern stuff now is super quick so I've stuck with owning a couple of classics which are fast enough for me.

Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641990
22/06/2020 08:52
22/06/2020 08:52
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 776
State of Essex .
robcoupe20vt Offline
Enjoying the ride
robcoupe20vt  Offline
Enjoying the ride

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 776
State of Essex .
No all the big four had turbo models . Suzuki had the XN85 and Yamaha had the XJ650 turbo and i nearly bought one last year . I remember seeing my first Honda CX500 Turbo back in 1982 at mallory park at the trans atlantic races . I was young then and always remember standing on the start finish straight behind the wire fence and Sheene pasing and the smell of two stroke oil . The turbo era in motor bikes was a short lived effort .However today manufactures in the future are down seizing engines and putting turbos on bikes .Kawasaki KR250 was a tandem twin two stroke https://www.cycleworld.com/yamaha-developing-turbocharged-twin/

I am bikeless althought my ZX6R is in my garage the frame is bent . 100 meters from my house 4 weeks ago last Friday a guy driving a Zafira ran a red light and i hit him . In lockdown and to have a RTA on a motorbike how's that for bad luck ??? Broken right arm and operation to plate it . I will be off work for at least 3 months . First accident in 10 years . My soliciter emailed me the CCTV of the accident from Tescos CCTV but i cant watch it .


Fiat 20VT
Fiat 16vt
Fiat 130TC
Fiat 131 sport
Kawasaki ZX6RP7F Kawasaki GPZ550 Kawasaki ZX7R P2
Re: Engine configurations [Re: respace] #1641991
22/06/2020 09:00
22/06/2020 09:00
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Gripped Offline
Club member 1924
Gripped  Offline
Club member 1924
Forum is my job

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,609
S. Wales. Way beyond my means
Have you still got your bikes Joe? Interested to hear about them.

Just before lockdown, I tested the new British/Indian Royal Enfield interceptor 650 parallel twin. Really nice looking bikes and seem to have really improved on quality. Really nice to ride, fairly quick despite only 47bhp, quite torquey and excellent handling. Even has ABS. Engine is brand new and sounds great. A fantastic package for only £5k new. The stablemate GT looks even better but is less comfy.

Attached Files
IMG_20200622_100514.jpg (47 downloads)
Last edited by Gripped; 22/06/2020 09:07.
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1
(Release build 20190129)
PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.023s Queries: 18 (0.008s) Memory: 0.9142 MB (Peak: 1.1707 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-03-28 13:41:28 UTC