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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643273
07/08/2020 19:35
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It's suddenly looking a bit vague again, Brian - now arriving from Belgium requires quarantine. Nobody is quite certain but today there was much talk of even travelling through Belgium also requiring it. We're going to Berlin again on Wednesday, and it looks as if even driving through it will be enough to cause the quarantine when we return.

The alternative through France is (a) sodding toll roads and (b) 200 miles further, and so three hours longer. Meh.


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643274
07/08/2020 20:33
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Thanks Neil, Yes I heard the news of Belgium last night. I think that's sort of my question... I mean if you are technically passing through a country and not stopping as they say "transiting" is this allowed?

I was listening to the radio today and seemingly they have voluntary testing on some German/Austrian border. Have you encountered any testing on the borders?

We are now just 5 weeks away from going and is far as i can see if we were going today then it would be okay but in 5 weeks I don't know.

I've bookmarks for FCO, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy which I regularly check in on.


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643279
08/08/2020 08:25
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Unless I hear otherwise I will assume I can pass through as I will not be taking passengers, and should not need to stop in Belgium for fuel. On the return I'll fuel in Germany just to get a receipt... the Bravo will actually (just) get from Hemel to Berlin on one tank - though that depends on (a) wind direction and (b) boredom laugh


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643300
09/08/2020 09:47
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Just had to check that distance... 700 odd miles I don't think ill be able to eek that out in the coupé laugh and besides that the roads do seem to have a faster flow to them than UK. Could do with a 6 speed box. That's pretty good going for the bravo I seem to remembering getting around 600 in my 1.9jtd.


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643303
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Originally Posted by Rosso
That's pretty good going for the bravo


Yep but you haven't seen Neil driving tongue


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643309
09/08/2020 17:23
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From experience,

If you top up in France, you won't need to stop again to get through Belgium and then in to Germany,

If you DID find you needed to stop - but paid at the pump for fuel and interacted with no-one- you should be fine.

Not to put a spanner in the works - but I suspect Europe will start to shut down bit by bit as the media bleats on about a "2nd wave".

Lets hope your trip is fine - and continues!

Regards

MM

Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Edinburgh] #1643366
10/08/2020 21:37
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Originally Posted by Edinburgh
Originally Posted by Rosso
That's pretty good going for the bravo


Yep but you haven't seen Neil driving tongue


Cant be that bad surely... Driving all those miles at warp speed on the autobahn crazy


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Master_Mariner] #1643367
10/08/2020 21:40
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Originally Posted by Master_Mariner


Not to put a spanner in the works - but I suspect Europe will start to shut down bit by bit as the media bleats on about a "2nd wave".

Lets hope your trip is fine - and continues!

Regards

MM


Fingers are crossed and looking at alternatives routes not to say those alternatives will be good either right enough.

The good thing about getting the ferry at Newcastle is it saves us 900 miles as opposed to using the tunnel but looking at that as option if France is opened in September.


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: barnacle] #1643475
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Originally Posted by barnacle
Unless I hear otherwise I will assume I can pass through as I will not be taking passengers, and should not need to stop in Belgium for fuel. On the return I'll fuel in Germany just to get a receipt... the Bravo will actually (just) get from Hemel to Berlin on one tank - though that depends on (a) wind direction and (b) boredom laugh


This maybe of interest Neil

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors

Partway down that page is this.

Private vehicles
You don’t need to self-isolate if you travel through a non-exempt country and you don’t stop in the country.

If you do make a stop, you don’t need to self-isolate if:

no new people get into the vehicle
no-one in the vehicle gets out, mixes with other people, and gets in again
You do need to self-isolate if you make a stop and:

new people get into the vehicle, or
someone gets out of the vehicle, mixes with other people and gets in again


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643476
14/08/2020 06:09
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Yes... we're in Germany at the moment so it looks, um, interesting... quite how you prove you haven't stopped in Belgium or France is an interesting one; the best I can do I suppose is to ensure I fill up in Germany and keep the receipt.

I need to be there and back to Germany early in September and then the final move in the middle of September...


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643523
15/08/2020 14:03
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Neil, I suppose as you say you have no reason to stop so that's sensible not to do so.

I don't recall noticing on our trip in 2018 but are there many pay at the pumps in Europe? From what I've read above we would be okay travelling through with no stops but with 4 weeks now to go there's seem to be a trend closing in.


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643587
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Back in one piece in spite of flooding that closed the river tunnel in Antwerp and delayed us two hours before we could escape from the queue and find a different way home (via Brussels, as it turned out).

We had arranged to stop at strategic locations in Germany and collected receipts in case we needed to explain why we had not needed to stop in Belgium, Holland, or France. As it turned out we were simply asked 'had we stopped anywhere after Germany?' and that was it - no advice to isolate.

Going to Germany via the Aachen route was a bit of a disaster; lots of roadworks and generally slow. Might consider the reverse of our trip back next time (only without the two hour delay).

Some pumps pay with credit card at the pump, but most that I used involved seeing the cashier. Isolation is generally well handled; you need a mask even if you only want a pee.

Neil


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643790
23/08/2020 22:45
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Definetly a re-route will have to happen now with no stops in Netherlands or Austria and no overnight stop in Switzerland either.


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Re: Italian Road Trip 2020 [Re: Rosso] #1643817
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Head for Aachen and turn right, go down the Rhine? Pretty route, but of course takes you to Austria... though that's small enough to shoot through, takes you close to the Italian end of Stelvio.


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