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Clutch advice #1650682
07/05/2021 14:12
07/05/2021 14:12
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Hi team, looking for some advice on a new clutch please.

After fitting a boost gauge to my car and establishing that it was only hitting 1.1 bar instead of the mapped 1.5, I asked my friendly, intelligent and frankly excellent mechanic to "make it go fast please".

After getting the boost back to where it should've been the car went well but upon hitting the motorway and truly giving it the beans, the clutch went slip slip sliding away as the revs rose the boost fell and no speed was gained. Sad face.

Currently running around 300hp with a GC racing 'fast road' clutch, which I assume is their stage 2 version. With a couple of tweaks hoping to make around 330hp when mapped over the summer.

Leads me onto the question, which clutch should I get?

The CG racing stage 2 is £300, stage 3 is £330 but looks like a paddle clutch. Is stage 3 overkill? What does a paddle clutch do differently to a normal one? Will going for the stage 2 be silly as I've already broken one of them, but it is about 6 years old we think.

What about techniclutch? They have a stage 2 on eBay for £270 that is good for 350hp. Don't know anything about the reputation of this company anyone on here used them? The money saved over CG one will be a big bonus if

As usual, extremely grateful for thoughts and opinions.

Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650737
10/05/2021 09:02
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With clutches you wanted to look at the torque rating, not BHP rating.

I think techniclutch are ones to avoid and have no idea on CG, but a paddle clutch will make the car very hard to drive in traffic.


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650739
10/05/2021 09:37
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Don't touch techniclutch, they're repainted standard pressure plates

Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650744
10/05/2021 11:01
10/05/2021 11:01
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Well there we go then, thanks both!

If you're interested, I managed to reduce the boost a bit and it doesn't slip now. Maybe it's not so borked after all

Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650749
10/05/2021 13:49
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Running a manual on a hybrid isn't the best as its so progressive, as mentioned in my Whatsapp message keep your eye out for an after market boost controller, its help loads.

Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650759
10/05/2021 20:04
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I had a Helix Organic clutch that coped with my modified car. BPH was 360 but can recall the more important torque figure but was substantial. Not sure if these clutches are still available? Had an uprated CG clutch on my re-mapped Stilo 2lt diesel and it was fine, so think they are okay.

Last edited by Mark_S; 10/05/2021 20:04.

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Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650768
11/05/2021 09:41
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Mardi Gras are still able to supply the Helix Organic, a great clutch but super expensive in comparison to CG kits, worth the money though as I run both the organic and paddle with high torque builds with no slippage.

Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650800
12/05/2021 20:46
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Helix organic in mine. I've tried to break it but it just keeps working. For every day use though then I'm not sure I could live with it.
Great strong clutch though.



Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650848
14/05/2021 15:37
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My Helix organic copes with about 375 lb-ft and smooth (but with a heavy pedal). It only judders slightly if trying to pull away with less than about 1500rpm, which isn't really normal behaviour


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Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650875
16/05/2021 16:47
16/05/2021 16:47
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Thanks all for the info and advice, I'll get the rest of the car sorted then look at what the clutch is doing. Much appreciated

Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650876
16/05/2021 16:48
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Double posted

Last edited by Morrison; 16/05/2021 16:48.
Re: Clutch advice [Re: Morrison] #1650886
17/05/2021 03:18
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I'm currently using a CG kevlar and it seems to be holding up well...drives just like a standard clutch. Previously I had a CG paddle clutch..it grips like a monster but my god was that the most difficult thing to drive! crazy




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