iv just had new red.dot brakes fitted from the groupe buy disks and round and fast pad's but at the front the disks are so hots you cant tought them them afer you drive it for 2 min's are they ment to be like that ? i have go brembo calipers not standard ones at the front and the man at the garage said they do fit right he hat to grind them down . have i got wroung pads for the front?

The red dot fast road pads need about 1mm grinding off the top and bottom of them to make them fit easily. It sounds like yours were not filed down enough and are sticking causing too much heat buildup. Whip them out and grind them down a bit more or you will get a "warped" disc. Also clear out all the dust and corrosion under the pad guides.

Agree with this ^^^.

Sounds like the mechanic bashed them in, rather than grinding away a mm or so from the top and bottom.

do i need all the pad grinding down or just the front?

also i went out in the car yesterday for about 30 mins do you think the disks could warped already?

Grind the metal lip on top and bottom, not the pad material. Line it up with the old pad, you will see the metal part is a couple of mms higher. Dont worry about warping the discs, Nigels "unwarping" method worked a treat on my old discs!

how do you unwarp the disks?

braking very hard from high speeds, but not coming to a complete stop

Nigel did a more detailed description, I'm sure it is in one of the FAQs or How To guides somewhere

Nigel says:

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Almost right Stan - this has been proven many times over with Coupes, especially 20VTs

When you come to a standstill with hot brakes, AND you keep your foot on the brake pedal, the pad transfers pad material into the granular stucture of the disc surface. This isn't normally a problem if its done evenly (in fact its desirable - its part of the bedding in process)

However, at a standstill, you end up with a higher concentration of pad material on one part of the disc.

The warped sensation that you can then get isn't actually a physical warp, its simply one section of the disc with a higher friction coefficient than the rest - when braking (especially when braking gently) you get an on/off/on/off sensation, which your brain says must be caused by physical defoomation of the disc itself.

The cure is simple - find an empty, dry (private ;\) ) section of road and then do the following:

1) brake moderately hard from 80mph-ish to 10mph - leave for a few hundred yards to cool.
2) repeat 1) four more times.
3) Making absolutely sure your private road is still very empty, get to about 100mph - 110mph and brake hard down to 10mph, but not hard enough to get the ABS to cut in.
4) now repeat 1) - 3) again, making sure you allow a few hundred yards cooling time between each application.
5) now drive gently for a few miles to let everything cool down before stopping

NOTE - NEVER come to a complete stop at the end of any of the braking sessions, otherwise you'll exacerbate the problem.

If your brakes are still juddery after re-bedding, then they're probably actually warped, but experience shows me that more than 50% of "warps" are actually pad deposit problems and are thus eminently curable

do i need all the pad grinding down or just the front pads?

just the front four pads as far as I know

supid question?

why dont they make the pads fit?

No, good question and I wondered myself as I was wearing out all my dremel bits I guess they cant measure

my brakes are done now

good man, hope they dont stick anymore and perform nicely!