Mainly - I want an EVO IC, what version would you lot recommend? And IC that will handle over 400Bhp.

Secondly and my main headache, (and the bit I don't quite "get") where can I get the piping to fit the Coop? Is there a place where I can get the piping in the right lengths, diameters with all the right bends?

Also with a GT2871R I need a 3in SIP, right?

Why not buy the ProAlloy kit and you have everything you need to fit it?

I thought about that and in hindsight, probably should've bought this on the last GB, but I bottled it on it's possible limits.

I'd imagine you'd just need to raid ebay for different pieces of silicone boost pipe (3" I think), then just fabricate your own route. Evo 6 intercooler seems to be the most popular choice.

Demon tweeks, merlin etc all sell bits of silicone hose I think you need 68mm (2.5") IIRC for the evo intercooler and it will handle more than 400hp - as proven by Flea.

You'll probably need a few bits of tube too, but one of those kind of companys will be able to help.

I'm sure Nobby made a list of "the bits you need" - Will see if I can find it

Flea only has 2.5" pipework? Thought it might be wider than that.

Sorry no that wasn't what I ment exactly, Flea's using the Evo Intercooler and running silly power was what i was trying to say.

But the outlets on the Evo intercooler are 68mm So I assume he is. Sure he will clarify if not

sorry I got that wrong, my SIP is 3", intercooler piping is 2.5"

I currently have an EVO 8 in the garage and the internal diameter is 64mm, therefore 2.5(64mm) diameter piping is what you need. Good thing is as well is the 90 degree bend from turbo to intercooler is also 64mm so you can use this if needed. I bought the silicone (4 ply) from japan good quality (various 64mm connectors, a 70mm to 64mm connector for the inlet manifold and a couple of 90 degree bends) and got pipework made in work.

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I would go for a genuine evo intercooler over a pro-alloy one personally. It will work out cheaper in the end as well and you will wind up with a better intercooler IMHO

Nobby,

I like your diagram, but I think you can do it in less bends.
It is possible to use a 135 degree wide angle bend off the other side of the intercooler depending on its outlet angle and then a 60 degree bend onto the black plastic pipe (you need to unbolt the plastic pipe and let it point more downward). I run mine like that but I cannot use the 135 degree bend as my intercooler is too far over to the right.

There is another way of piping it through the chasis member (Barbz does it like this) which again reduces it to 2x90 degrees off the intercooler to the black plastic piece but I've never seen a car done that way.

Glad you like my diagram John. My chargecooler means I need 2x 90 deg pipes at the top (its longer and sticks out further than the black plastic pipe).

Agree about the lower 135 deg pipe though

Chris

yeah in which case you would need 2x90 degree bends there

I'm sure JohnS is right in that an EVO IC will be a slightly cheaper deal and a slightly better IC

However, my ProAlloy is happily handling over 400bhp. I've never seen more than about 45 degrees, even in the height of summer, running 1.6 bar for a mile at TOTB

In the current weather, I can't get above 25 degrees

The undoubted beauty of the ProAlloy is that apart from the bumper hack, its a bolt-on solution - no need to source pipes, bends or brackets

Booom! Well that's gone right over my head!

Even with the diagram (which is cool) I can't picture how that all physically fits. Literally taken - which I'm not, and that makes it harder when you've never seen round the back of the turbo to have an idea where all these pipes go, nor have a ramp - it looks more like a guide to fit a SMIC.

So with straight induction where are you moving the A/F to? Sort of behind the left front light?

EDIT: So fomr what I can gather it looks like you need to grab a load of piping and connect it up like lego until it fits? Major rse.

Suddenly the Pro Alloy looks like a decent option... Does that have in and out piping on the same side of the IC?

Bloody hell, I actually understand that diagram and can picture where it all goes!

No, pro alloy is in one side out the other, same as the Evo.

The dual pass one with in and out on the same side is the Pace FMIC which is pants in comparison.

With a straight induction pipe the air filter goes tucked inside the front bumper, in front of the wheel arch, low down.

Ah right I'm with you now. So it is kinda rough scale diagram than a pure 'metaphoric' diagram. Photos would help though.

I suppose my original question should be; can someone tell me what piping I need?!

WF, the airflow thingy goes near where the standard side mount locates. Try and keep it the right way up though as mine complained a bit when it wasnt at the correct angle

Barbz gave me a list of the piping required to fit my evo 7 fmic (been left sitting on a cupboard for a year atleast), im not sure but I think the 8 is the same? The the piping suggested though requires you to cut one of the nozzles off and re-attach it so it faces the car, I also had some metal connecting pipes made up which are now also collecting dust!

Pretty much certain that the E V VI VII VIII are all the same and the design was changed at IX.

^^ think that cutting and moving would make things a bit easier as on the intercooler both inlets point downwards but it would probably be easier to fit if the side heading towards the inlet was pointing up... If that makes sense

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f41/13ad_13oy/S6000704.jpg

That might help RHS needs to point up

is it possible to take the end off and put it back on upside down, or is it all one solid piece?

Welded

Hmm... you reckon Rog would fit something like this if I gave him the parts?

Also, how does the IC sit in place? Is it suspended on the piping or should you put some make-shift mounts together?

yes - rog will do it if you supply the parts. You can make up brackets if you want - or metal cable ties do the job as well.

Well I think I might get him to do that plus my paddle clutch I'll be ordering soon.

I rekcon even I can handle the Gtec 2 fitting, being a computer techy afterall...

7,8 are definitely different to 6. I think 9 is the same as 8 as I sold a 9 one relatively recently

I always see them advertised as a 4/5/6 cooler or a 7/8/9 cooler, so I guess thats where they changed the design.

Remember to book a RR session after you install the gtech 2.