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around 280hp needed, please advise #500338
11/12/2007 00:09
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I`d like to have around 280hp when I save enough money for mods, so I`ve contacted my local Italian car tuning shop and they`ve recomended the following:

-k&n air filter or simmilar //// they`ve told me it requires maintaining, is it difficult to detach and clean it?

-new injectors with capability of 440cc //// could you advise the average price?

-turbo from Lancia Integrale Evo1 with new internals + installation - 730$ ///any comments on this turbo?

-decat //// any disadvantages ? when I told that I`ve heard that decat can reduce turbine life, they laughed) and they are good proffesionals.

-custom ecu - 700$ for chip itself and 800$+ for programming it ////now this price seems crazy!


Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #500348
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You wont need the injectors, they are capable to deliver upto 280 - 300bhp, depending on condition.

Decat wont have that much of an affect on the 16v turbos, bit more sensitive on the 20vt turbos

That price does seem a little high? Can they not just remap the ECU?

Maintaining the Air filter is easy, spray an oil on, then wash it off smile


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: Begbie] #500354
11/12/2007 00:24
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K&N clean is spray cleaner all over it, let it do its work for 20 minutes, wash it all through with tap water, ( inside to out ), let dry naturally, oil lightly until all cotton is red / impregnated with oil , but not wet .. cleaner and oil is £15 . last a fair few recharges of the filter smile

the amount of dirt the cleaning solution gets out compared to water is astounding .. and old oil is removed, which traps fine dirt / dust etc

should be held on with one big jubilee clip smile

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: Begbie] #500356
11/12/2007 00:26
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thx for info!
so k&n + decat definitely to be done

i don`t know, I told them that I have squadra chip, maybe they can`t remap it.. but 1500$ for custom one, omg! is it that necessary?
will standrad fuel pump be enough?

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Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #500360
11/12/2007 00:32
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Squadra chip wont really be up to it as it will be mapped for a standard car not one with mods.

It maybe worth chucking a front mounted intercooler into the mix, so you get the best of the Moscow temps! laugh

Fuel pump will probably be on the limit, so could upgrade to a walbro which will do the job nicely


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: Begbie] #500371
11/12/2007 00:42
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smile i believe fmic is a nice thing but not the musthave im my case, becides i like how top mounted one looks.

any ideas about that lancia turbo? I`d like to have boost at 3500rpm or earlier if possible

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #500373
11/12/2007 00:44
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lancia turbo will be fine, you will have boost around 3000rpm and be going fully at 3500rpm.

Top mounted intercooler confused It is either at the side or the front, never on the top, unless you have a subaru engine and haven't told us laugh


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: Begbie] #500379
11/12/2007 00:55
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lol, no! no jap stuff inside my coop! that`s it I beleive http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6338/17815371ty6.jpg

It`s on the side but it`s on the top either

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #500382
11/12/2007 01:08
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ah ok. we call that a side mounted intercooler where it is in the wing. There is no top intercooler smile


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
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Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #500383
11/12/2007 01:12
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That's your airbox which the K&N will replace... looks very dusty where you are! The intercooler is directly south of the airbox where the black pipe goes down in front of the wheel arch.


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Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: Flea] #503616
16/12/2007 15:35
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would it be the same setup for the 20v turbo, ive heard you only need a chip, fuel pump, filt and exhaust

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #503715
16/12/2007 19:50
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On a 20vt you need a
Good cat back (scorpion being my 1st choice )
gtec1
moded air box with a k&n or an apexi/ram air filter
boost gage
255lph fuel pump
and a prv for a bit more boost and you should hit 280bhp

all so don't forget to get the fuelling checked on a RR. It is all so recommended to have a compression test to check how healthy you lump is
(no point spending a load of dosh on moding only to give it to carlt later on laugh )

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #503722
16/12/2007 20:06
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I thought you'd be looking more at around 260 on a 20vt with those mods bernie.

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #503724
16/12/2007 20:09
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i got 278bhp with those mods

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #504070
17/12/2007 13:09
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cheers mine has just had a rebuild so should be good for it (bottom end went for a walk)

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #504099
17/12/2007 14:26
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Agree with that, a good exaust with better/no catalyst, Novitec/gtec-chip, airbox mod and a healthy engine should be enough.

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #504170
17/12/2007 17:06
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ive heard that a decat will kill the turbo, is it true

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #504195
17/12/2007 18:07
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On a 20vt it will put extra stress on the turbo seals, if your turbo is on the way out it will kill it a bit sooner rather than later.
i put a de-cat on my coop and in 1000 miles I got my self a gtir due to this but there have been coop's running a de-cat with no problems what so ever

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #504259
17/12/2007 19:09
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i decatted mine a month ago and my seals went on saturday so it looks like i have to buy a bigger turbo now

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #504293
17/12/2007 20:11
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il have to pay for a uprated cat then

Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #505185
19/12/2007 01:49
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So what you're saying is getting a decat will ruin your turbo, resulting in you having to buy an uprated turbo to replace it!? confused

And where can one buy these decats..? wink

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Re: around 280hp needed, please advise [Re: ] #505213
19/12/2007 02:32
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you can buy motorsport decats from alot of places ie powerflow and in the mags do a search on the net mate


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