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22mm or 24 mm ARB ? #676422
08/09/2008 21:39
08/09/2008 21:39

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Hi guys looking to buy a rear arb from balance motorsport

http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=59235

i know a load of you bought these from the group buy

couple of questions some of you went for the 22mm bar some went for a 24mm,not sure which one to get.

one or 2 of you said the rear can be twitchy with the 24mm,has anyone had both 22mm and a 24mm fitted?

my current handling mods are koni ssk kit,strut brace.

any advice on which size bar appreciated.

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676426
08/09/2008 21:46
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Speaking from my testing of bars on Peugeot 205s I'd go for the smaller of the two bars. The last thing you want is a car that will lift off oversteer at any opportunity by going too stiff at the rear.

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676502
09/09/2008 00:48
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Yep, 22mm Road Bar for road use deffo.. Looking at using dedra 4x4 front too.... will post on results, Cheers Tim


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Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: F927UBS] #676526
09/09/2008 03:09
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just go 24mm. i run a 23mm bar at the moment and still get tons of understeer at the limit.

anyway a bit of lift-off oversteer is a good thing. \:\)

redd

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676572
09/09/2008 09:54
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22mm is plenty. With decent suspension the car is solid as a rock at the back on the 22mm.

If you are getting understeer then it's not because the bar is not thick enough - you need to look at how the front end is setup, ie. caster and camber etc.

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676594
09/09/2008 10:24
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ok guys thanks for the advice - 22mm it is

has anyone changed this off axle stands or is it a job you really need the height to get at comfortably ?

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676619
09/09/2008 10:54
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You have to drop the petrol tank and the brackets can be an absolute bast*rd to get undone - its possible with a great deal of swearing. I think its a job for a specialist personally.

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Much easier on a lift to be honest, you need to drop the fuel tank to get the bar in so doing it on stands might be a little tight for access ?

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676653
09/09/2008 11:30
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 Originally Posted By: suba
22mm is plenty. With decent suspension the car is solid as a rock at the back on the 22mm.

If you are getting understeer then it's not because the bar is not thick enough - you need to look at how the front end is setup, ie. caster and camber etc.


-1.5 deg camber, 1mm toe out. that's a fairly aggressive front config, i think. caster's not adjustable afaik.

redd

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676655
09/09/2008 11:34
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I did it on axle stands fine and although I was fairly happy with what I was doing its wasn't my favourite job. Dropping the front subframe was worse for the front ARB.

If you do it yourself make sure you inplug the power cables from you fuel pump/fuel gauge when you drop the tank though, otherwise they will pull the cables out \:\( \:D

Chris

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676735
09/09/2008 13:34
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correct - unless you change the top mount.

To adjust the camber you either have to slot the dampers or use a camber bolt.

Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: ] #676743
09/09/2008 13:55
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You only need to undo the one bolt at the front of the tank and lower it a little bit, it doesn't need to come out completely.


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Re: 22mm or 24 mm ARB ? [Re: mattB] #676910
09/09/2008 18:13
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ok will have a look at the job when the arb arrives,cheers again for all the feedback


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