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A couple of Superspool questions #686468
29/09/2008 20:53
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After reading though a few search results i`m starting to think a wee Superspool turbo would go quite nicely with my Coop but I would just like a couple of answers to some questions to help me make my mind up smile .

1) Is the Superspool just a straight swap for the standard turbo?

2) Can a Superspool be made up from a old standard unit,seeing as I have one sitting thats in not to bad nick ?

3) I have a chargecooler sitting waiting for me to fit and I see that Jimbo runs his Superspool with a CC + Pace SMIC. I take it i`ll be fine running it with the standard SMIC + CC (i`ll probably end up getting a Pace SMIC eventually laugh )?

Baz smile


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Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: Baz76] #686492
29/09/2008 21:38
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Baz as you know I know he-haw about turbos but thought Id give it ago.

1. Sure its a straight swap.

2 Sure you have to buy a new one,quite expensive.

3. Sure you would be fine with these cooling mods.

4. I know for SURE someone creditable should answer these questions.

What about this guy

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Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #686529
29/09/2008 22:58
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i am keeping an eye on that thread as well spoke to myles the guy that is making the kits up and he said he would be able to produce a fast spooling turbo for those not looking for big power, got a price for a superspool from barbz and it was just over 1k, he said he could get a ball bearing version of the superspool but that would be a couple of hundred more so looks like that the kits that are going to be produced should be good value

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #686533
29/09/2008 23:03
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you dont have to buy a new one. Try turbo dynamics MD 238 spec is a superspool.

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hanks for your enquiry regarding the remanufacture of your Fiat 20v turbocharger. It is certainly something we can undertake doing - actually we have another one going through the factory at this very moment!
Without seeing the unit it is very difficult if not impossible to quote - however I can give a guildeline price (All prices + VAT). The minimum you will pay to overhaul a unit of good servicable condition is £195. That price goes up in accordance with the extra parts and labour we need to put into it. If there is a need for oversize bearings and seals (highly likely) then the price will be around the £225 - £250, if a replacement turbine wheel and heatshield is needed (as in the one we are doing today) the price will be around the £350 region. It all depends on what parts can be reused, and what parts need replacing.
On top of that we can uprate the turbocharger at the same time, add on £65 for a 360 degree thrust bearing, or we can upgrade to MD238 spec good for 300-320 BHP. The choice will be yours at the time of overhaul.

We operate with TNT - we can collect your unit and have it here the next working day for a price of £12 + VAT. From there we will pull the unit apart, cost it for the work needed and call you with your options and quotes. From there you can select which suits you best and give us the go ahead. Delivery back to you is £12 + VAT.

All our turbos come with a 12 month 12,000 mile warranty. (But remember a turbo is only as reliable as the engine it is bolted to!) [/quote/


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Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: sugerbear] #686540
29/09/2008 23:15
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This thread says a gtir is a MD238

Was thinking about the superspool myself and would like to know if your right SB smile

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #686545
29/09/2008 23:33
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MD238 is a Gti-R hybrid.


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Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: mattB] #686551
29/09/2008 23:52
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Yes my correction, but you can get superspools made up, they are identical to the standard turbo (same housing) you just need to know the spec and I am sure the info is somewhere on the forum.


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Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: sugerbear] #686556
30/09/2008 00:09
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Thanks for the info so far guys cool .

Baz smile


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Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: Baz76] #689543
06/10/2008 01:07
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I have a superspool on my car (fitted by previous owner) which was built to Barbz spec by turbo dynamics ... i seem to remember the price on the invoice being around the £450 area...? I do like it though, it's noticably quicker than a standard spool up, and pulls very progressively throughout the rev range. Looking forward to getting it mapped once I've sorted a few other bits n' bobs.

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #689768
06/10/2008 16:48
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does it give the specs on the invoice, is it the md370, cheers

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691056
13/10/2008 17:57
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Yup, it's an MD370 - cost was £460. wink
Tom

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691078
13/10/2008 18:44
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iv got a md370 tongue

850£s for a bran new md370, 920£s for a gtir from turbo dynamics. smile


Brief Specifications: -

MD370 High flow T28 - 55 Trim Compressor wheel, C.N.C. re-profiled compressor housing, modified bearing housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, left hand thread shaft & wheel assembly fitted with “staggered gap” total seal piston ring, cutback turbine blades Uprated actuator – optional. Recommended maximum boost level is 18-20 P.S.I. Approx 280-300bhp

MD238 High flow T28 - 60 Trim Compressor wheel, C.N.C. re-profiled compressor housing, modified bearing housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, left hand thread shaft & wheel assembly fitted with “staggered gap” total seal piston ring. Uprated actuator – optional. Recommended maximum boost level is 20-22 P.S.I. Approx 300-320 bhp

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13/10/2008 19:44
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Originally Posted by Johna
iv got a md370 tongue

850£s for a bran new md370, 920£s for a gtir from turbo dynamics. smile


Brief Specifications: -

MD370 High flow T28 - 55 Trim Compressor wheel, C.N.C. re-profiled compressor housing, modified bearing housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, left hand thread shaft & wheel assembly fitted with “staggered gap” total seal piston ring, cutback turbine blades Uprated actuator – optional. Recommended maximum boost level is 18-20 P.S.I. Approx 280-300bhp

MD238 High flow T28 - 60 Trim Compressor wheel, C.N.C. re-profiled compressor housing, modified bearing housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, left hand thread shaft & wheel assembly fitted with “staggered gap” total seal piston ring. Uprated actuator – optional. Recommended maximum boost level is 20-22 P.S.I. Approx 300-320 bhp


Oh guys i realize! MD238 is what i'm going to make!

I've bought à 60 TRIM compressor wheel + spécial housing for my T28. So my hybrid will have the same spec than this MD238 shocked

Am i right? love

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691138
13/10/2008 19:49
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ne sais pas

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691197
13/10/2008 21:29
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Johna and Actionhank whats the spool up time like on your md370's in comparison to a standard turbo, cheers

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691226
13/10/2008 22:14
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dunno doug, need a new boost controller..

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691277
13/10/2008 23:07
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Same here. I've not been in a standard coop recently to be able to compare. My car is only lightly modified (supersprint exhast system and k&n cone)and runs a standard ecu at the moment. I'd say it still comes on boost quicker, slightly harder, and pulls more consistantly to the red line. Sorry I can't be of more help!
Jimbo has a superspool and tells me that with a couple mods and a map it makes for awesome drive-ability, if you're not just gunning for out and out 1/4 mile performance.
Tom

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691396
14/10/2008 10:53
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cheers guys, tom does your superspool have cut back turbine blades or are they standard

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14/10/2008 19:28
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Quote

MD370 High flow T28 - 55 Trim Compressor wheel, C.N.C. re-profiled compressor housing, modified bearing housing, 360 degree thrust bearing, left hand thread shaft & wheel assembly fitted with “staggered gap” total seal piston ring, cutback turbine blades Uprated actuator – optional. Recommended maximum boost level is 18-20 P.S.I. Approx 280-300bhp


so yes

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691656
14/10/2008 20:03
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Urrr, yeah, like Jef said laugh

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lol cheers guys

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #691755
14/10/2008 23:31
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Haa, sorry man. Since I didn't fit it I'm not exactly a font of knowledge about it .... in fact, this thread has been pretty enlightening! Any info is welcome!!

Re: A couple of Superspool questions [Re: ] #692126
15/10/2008 16:40
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lol no probs i should learn to read lol, i am looking at uprating the turbo and looking at specs myself, have already annoyed turbo dynamics a fair bit but very tempted by the group buy for ball bearing turbo's spoke to to Myles the guy who is running it and he was really helpful


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