can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim

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can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim #768312 08/02/2009 20:59 08/02/2009 20:59
B BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered
BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered B	I have azev C 18s currently with 225 35 18, can i stretch 215 onto that rim size a couple of guys at the red dot rolling road day had 215s on there 8.5 inch azevs, but the guy at kwikfit said it was a bad idea???

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768324 08/02/2009 21:14 08/02/2009 21:14
S Shifty Unregistered
Shifty Unregistered S	The width of your rim is wider than the width of the tyre.

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768352 08/02/2009 21:36 08/02/2009 21:36
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,728 N.E Scotland mattB Club member 6
mattB Club member 6 I AM a Coop Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,728 N.E Scotland	I wouldn't do it, regardless of if it can be stretched or not. Death-rattle-tastic

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: mattB] #768471 08/02/2009 23:29 08/02/2009 23:29
B BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered
BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered B	Any reason you wouldn't as others have? Is it dangerous or something

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768476 08/02/2009 23:33 08/02/2009 23:33
S Shifty Unregistered
Shifty Unregistered S	Tubeless tyres rely on the bond between the tyre and side wall of the rim. You probably can get away with it but I think there could be issues if the pressure within the tyre drops as this will reduce the assistance it supplys the bond. Therefore dramtic loss of pressure...

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768623 09/02/2009 11:16 09/02/2009 11:16
J JimSE Unregistered
JimSE Unregistered J	It's probably possible, but as other have written, not a good idea. But to give you some inspiration, check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-LnkEUAImU&feature=related

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768636 09/02/2009 11:39 09/02/2009 11:39
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	A wider tyre would protect the rim far more as well. Not much point getting (what I assume are) cheaper tyres if you end up having to refurb the wheels due to lack of protection.

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: Hyperlink] #768694 09/02/2009 12:40 09/02/2009 12:40
O owl10 Unregistered
owl10 Unregistered O	i think stretched tyres look cool, and have 215 on my 8" rim, a lot of the vw guys seem to do it all the time, with no problems. however.... even tryes with so called rim protectors wont stop the kerb monster eating your alloy if you get too close.....

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768703 09/02/2009 12:51 09/02/2009 12:51
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	I wouldnt say a 215 on 8" rims is streched being as I have 225 on standard 7.5" wheels 7.5" = 190.5mm with 205 tyres = 15mm wider 7.5" = 190.5mm with 225 tyres = 35mm wider 8" = 203mm with 215 tyres = 12mm wider 8.5" = 216mm with 215 = 1mm thiner!

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: Hyperlink] #768739 09/02/2009 13:30 09/02/2009 13:30
O owl10 Unregistered
owl10 Unregistered O	ok its not really straetched i admit, its just enough to render the tyre rim protectors useless though, the piont was more that if you go more, i.e 215 on a 8.5 youll need to be careful when parking

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768774 09/02/2009 14:11 09/02/2009 14:11
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	or just buy wider tyres

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768775 09/02/2009 14:11 09/02/2009 14:11
C cheech Unregistered
cheech Unregistered C	215 fit but is it safe NO!!! i got my avzes c 18s , they had 215 on front when got them years ago one morning while going round a roundbout my tyre fell off wheel nsf, it was hanging off the front of the rim the bead on the avzes wheels is at the rear of rim so when it goes ,the tyre will come off wheel 225 fits just but wider would be better for rim protectors

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #768778 09/02/2009 14:14 09/02/2009 14:14
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	exactly! 225's will give a similar to standard level of protection. something like a 240 will be more like a 225 on standard rims

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: Hyperlink] #768780 09/02/2009 14:17 09/02/2009 14:17
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	the concensus now is that stretched tyres are illegal Quote: # Regarding wheel width, they must not protrude more than 30mm beyond the wheel arches. (Council Directive 78/549/EEC) # Regarding the fitting of the tyre "Each tyre fitted to the vehicle shall be of a nominal size appropriate to the wheel to which it is fitted." Sec16(4 The Motor Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 2001'. The fact that the fit was outside manufacturers recommendations should be very persuasive to convince a court that the tyre was not fitted in a manner suitable to qualify it as 'approved'. # Section 40A RTA 1988 states "A person is guilty of an offence if he uses, or causes or permits another to use, a motor vehicle or trailer on a road when...the condition of the motor vehicle...or of its accessories or equipment...is such that the use of the motor vehicle or trailer involves a danger of injury to any person." Evidence to support this offence would include measurements of your wheel and tyre, and statements from the manufacturer or a tyre expert, indicating the potential risk of fitting outside their recommended parameters, namely, overheating, grip loss, unpredictable performance and behaviour etc etc. # If your vehicle was involved in a collision, especially one involving injury, where the cause led to the loss of control of your vehicle, dangerous driving may be considered, especially strengthened by Sec 2A(2) where "A person is also to be regarded as driving dangerously for the purposes of section 1 and 2 above if it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving the vehicle in its current state would be dangerous."

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: Nigel] #768783 09/02/2009 14:21 09/02/2009 14:21
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	its also interesting to note that you don't have to be driving dangerously to be prosecuted for dangerous driving - you can also be done if driving a car that is in a dangerous condition (which could be applied to stretched tyres Of course, if your stretched tyre came off the rim and you caused a crash which killed someone, you'd probably get a 'death by dangerous driving' which I believe can carry a custodial sentence. So - are you really willing to risk a spell at HM Pleasure just to have stretched tyres?

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: Nigel] #768787 09/02/2009 14:24 09/02/2009 14:24
C cheech Unregistered
cheech Unregistered C	yeah total agree i brought the wheels with 215 on this happened on a very busy roundbout 3 lanes wide, in rush hour and wet no damage done to anything or any one other then some rim damage mostly paint and very sorry looking nankang do you want this to happen and possible kill some one, dont fit 215

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #769019 09/02/2009 19:12 09/02/2009 19:12
O owl10 Unregistered
owl10 Unregistered O	Originally Posted By: cheech and very sorry looking nankang whole new topic..............

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #769117 09/02/2009 20:43 09/02/2009 20:43
B BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered
BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered B	i'll stick to the 225s then for sure

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #769500 10/02/2009 12:12 10/02/2009 12:12
K kay2 Unregistered
kay2 Unregistered K	why on earth would someone buy Azevs and then put Nangkangs on them!!!!!!!!!!! People that use budget tyres on perfomance cars should be shot.......

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #769611 10/02/2009 14:06 10/02/2009 14:06
B BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered
BoostMeCoupeUp Unregistered B	Originally Posted By: kay2 why on earth would someone buy Azevs and then put Nangkangs on them!!!!!!!!!!! People that use budget tyres on perfomance cars should be shot....... lol

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #769659 10/02/2009 14:47 10/02/2009 14:47
C cheech Unregistered
cheech Unregistered C	if i remeber correctly the nankang was highly rated on this site few years ago i was kinda of slated for saying they where crap at time and my tyre falling off happened after i said so

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #769949 10/02/2009 20:25 10/02/2009 20:25
M maastiff Unregistered
maastiff Unregistered M	When I collected my re-furbed wheels a few weeks ago there were some porsche replica rims with narrow tyres on them, as in so narrow there was more than half inch of rim exposed on each side. when I asked the guy about them he said it was a new trend as a lot of VAG drivers were doing it. What a bunch of retards! not only does it look stupid it must be dangerous. Wheel and tyre manufacturers hardly invest so much in research and engineering so some bunch of idiots can just do what they want and put lives at risk. with the pressures put on tyres especially with high speed cornering this can only be asking for trouble. Rant over $\:mad\:$

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch rim [Re: ] #770546 11/02/2009 15:38 11/02/2009 15:38
K kay2 Unregistered
kay2 Unregistered K	Nankang are nothing but shite chinese crap that shouldnt even be put on a shopping trolley!

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch [Re: ] #821859 27/04/2009 21:34 27/04/2009 21:34
J Jeremy20v Unregistered
Jeremy20v Unregistered J	I used to run 215 tyres on 9" on my old car... and it's alot of stretch never managed to rip one off, and not for lack of trying! but, would I do it on the Coupe, no way it's capable of proper speed, and I wouldn't be happy, on my (quite nippy) shopping hatch though, I didnt mind as much Last edited by Jeremy20v; 27/04/2009 21:35.

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch [Re: ] #821896 27/04/2009 22:20 27/04/2009 22:20
S Spee Unregistered
Spee Unregistered S	Doesn't sound like a good idea to me, why do you want to do it? Gareth

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch [Re: ] #821927 27/04/2009 23:01 27/04/2009 23:01
C coupedave Unregistered
coupedave Unregistered C	and i thought that in japan nankang where a very highly rated tyre, had some on an mr2 once and they were great!!

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch [Re: Hyperlink] #822021 28/04/2009 09:42 28/04/2009 09:42
S Skate2create Unregistered
Skate2create Unregistered S	Originally Posted By: Hyperlink 7.5" = 190.5mm with 205 tyres = 15mm wider 7.5" = 190.5mm with 225 tyres = 35mm wider 8" = 203mm with 215 tyres = 12mm wider 8.5" = 216mm with 215 = 1mm thiner! This confuses me a tad.. Will I be ok running 205's on a 7.5" (17") rim then? They are currently fitted with 215's in a very sorry state..

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch [Re: ] #822034 28/04/2009 09:57 28/04/2009 09:57
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	As far as width is concerned yes. The standard rims are 7.5" and the standard tyres as fitted by fiat were either 205 or 225 so anything in this range will be fine.

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch [Re: Hyperlink] #822051 28/04/2009 10:21 28/04/2009 10:21
S Skate2create Unregistered
Skate2create Unregistered S	225 on standard wheels would look like balloons surely? =/ A helpful tool I always used to use when changing tyre sizes on my bravo: http://fiatboo.co.uk/tyres.htm going from 205/50/16 to 205/40/17 puts my speedo out slightly, when I'm doing 70 by the clock I'm actually only doing 68.22mph..

Re: can i fit 215 instead of 225 tyres on 8.5 inch [Re: ] #822087 28/04/2009 11:19 28/04/2009 11:19
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	225 was standard for a plus - I have 225 on my car and they look great Last edited by Hyperlink; 28/04/2009 11:19.

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