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Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread #791339
10/03/2009 11:39
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Discussion thread on my coupe


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #791402
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Is it ready yet? laugh

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #791422
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Nearly. Just the subframe overhaul to do, off for the external wastegate to be done on the 6th April, then mapping, then it might be at Auto Italia shocked shocked


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #791490
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woohoo

Are you getting the subframe seam welded and then painted (not yellow, please)

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #791504
10/03/2009 14:46
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These drop links are gen fiat, they have a narrower daimeter, I'll get them fitted Beggars anyway. I said to Neil I'd take it down Thursday/friday. Tipo is in the garage with the rear arms off, when were you planning to come back and do the rear frame?? It could be removed on the driveway but I'm short of axle stands if mine is still in the garage.

What oil is in the engine at the moment? Can you order some gearbox oil - http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-806-mobilube...l-gear-oil.aspx .

You need a breather tank too, if you get one with some type of threaded connector you can step up the breather hose size. Get a 2ltr one if you can. Also dont you need some gear cable bushes or new cables full stop?? Oh and some decent brake fluid.

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #791519
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Rich, looking at coming back up in 2 weeks time (21st / 22nd) I can bring axle stands if your short as i can't see the rear subframe taking 2 days to do, unlike the fcensoreding gearbox.

Oil in the engine is some general cheap non-syth stuff, maybe better than the tesco's value oil you used laugh I'll order the oil and get 2l's of the stuff too.

Breather tank, i'll get one off ebay, then bring all the silicon hoses up that i have. Gear cables, that can wait, the bush needs changing as there is no metal part in the middle, but that doesn't stop it from changing gears, just another item to add to the snag list rolleyes

Nobby, not doing anything like that to the rear subframe, just fitting some metal bushes, swapping the trailing arms bearings out, fit the larger tarox discs on the rear, fit the Novitec rear anti roll bar (from Taz's group buy years ago!) and put it back together again. Front subframe has already been welded smile


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #791524
10/03/2009 15:12
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Cool. If your looking for brake fluid - I bought some ATE super blue from Monkfish performance the other day, only £11.50 per litre (gold is £12.95). Dunno if they do mail order though

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #793898
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dropped off, forgot the drive shafts will take them down. Neil was unimpressed with the manifold, I'd say lance will say something similar, the supersprint looked a lot nicer. He was however amazed at the size of the turbo and doesnt hold much hope for the drive shafts.

Theres a good body shop next door, shall I ask them to give a rought quote for full respray - windows in/out??

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #795424
16/03/2009 12:39
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Oh need to do something about your fuel line material

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #795531
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Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #804800
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Results are in, but i'm not saying what they are till i get hold of the power graph, but that should be some time tonight, details on the RR is here


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #813227
13/04/2009 22:15
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some pics from a couple weeks back
rear end off
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replace gearbox ofter cleaning it and painting
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fuel system works
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sub frame, new bearings, bushes novitec ARB
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Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #814222
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excellent work mate. wish i ahd a 16vt now lookingat that engine bay.

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #825604
04/05/2009 19:51
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Awesome project. Must be getting dangerously close to £10,000 by now? shocked

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: kj16v] #825854
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I've already exceeded that! I did a break down on costs of just buying parts for the engine / headwork / cams etc.. and that was around £8000!


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #831074
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Will it be ready for PPC in the Park Begbie?

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #831082
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No chance frown


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #840240
28/05/2009 21:28
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Any more news Begbie?

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #840658
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No, no more news really, just electrical gremlins at the moment which is causing the mapping to get delayed, but Phil's on the case thumb


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #841842
01/06/2009 14:45
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Heard from Phil earlier today, it seems there is a random electrical problem somewhere. The problem is when the car is idling, there will be a random pop out the exhaust, which it shouldn't do. Phil has managed to track this down to something happening on the MoTeC, it would change it CRiP (Crank Reference Index Position) whilst running, meaning the MoTeC is changing when it sees TDC, thus firing at a different time, hence the pop out the exhaust. The ECU is also showing that there is a sync error when running, but if a sync error occurs, the engine would stop, or not start at all, so Phil is getting the MoTeC ECU sent back to MoTeC to make sure there isn't a problem there. If it comes back with no problem, a custom wiring loom will be made up and the Fiat one binned.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and if i knew this was going to happen, i would have either gone for a custom loom from the start, or even a different ECU.


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #842372
02/06/2009 12:51
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would it not be worth making a custom loom while the MoTec is being sent off for inspection?

of cousre i understand there will be a cost involed....

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #842469
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Nope, because a custom loom will be a couple hundred pounds for a start, and whilst the MoTeC is away, it will probably be flashed with the latest version of the firmware, which might fix the fault, it might not, but i'd rather save money first


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #842891
03/06/2009 10:23
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true!
lets just hope its a small software issue thats all!!

shame we will not get to see it at Auto italia...

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #845189
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I don't suppose the crank sensor or trigger wheel are the problem. Perhaps the sensor is.moving at slow revs due to vibration or maybe one of the teeth on the flywheel is recessed slightly - so the sensror thinks theres an extra gap.

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #845714
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The teeth on the trigger pulley is only 4 teeth, each tooth for TDC on each cylinder


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #847848
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have you managed to sort it?

would like to know what the issue is!

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #847873
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These things take time. No, i don't know if it has been resolved yet, but will update this when i actually know


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #847948
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Originally Posted By: Begbie
These things take time.


And in Begbie's case, lots of time! tongue

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: Begbie] #851897
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come on man I'm really looking forward to your results, go go 16v power thumb

Re: Project 400bhp - 16v Turbo Discussion Thread [Re: ] #852017
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You're not the only one rolleyes How long does MoTeC need to test an ECU? frown


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
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