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Aftermarket wheels versus Originals #804082
30/03/2009 17:06
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Hello All,

I sort of started a thread inside another one of my threads recently about how I have never seen a set of aftermarket wheels that suit the coupe as well as the originals. I wondered what other peoples opinions are and thought people could post pictures of any contenders.

I apologise if there has been a similar thread on this before, but with new wheels coming out all the time and more and more modded coupe's appearing, I thought it wouldn't hurt to get people thinking about this subject again.

In my opinion if they bought out an 18inch version of the classic 20VT wheel, it would sell on this forum like hot cakes. Anyone agree?


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: djmobi] #804089
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I love the standard wheels , especially in LE anthracite, I wouldn't consider any other wheels, however, if someone released standard wheels, in 17in guise, I would be very, very tempted, 18's would look too big IMO, I like the fact that the front wheels are 'full' with brake disc and caliper ......

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Agreed - 18's look too big and dwarf the standard brakes. They are also crashy, and are hard to fit without fouling the arches.

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804105
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The standard 20VT wheels are lovely and have always suited the car best IMO and I have a set on my 20v NA. I agree, I haven't seen any aftermarket wheels that suit the car as well. A 17" version of the 20VT wheel would be perfect.

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804111
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Absolutely bang on ^

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I love standard 20vt wheels in black or dark grey. Makes the car look mean, especially when lowered.

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804350
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i have the same dilema.
i have a very nice set of 18's that i bought for a different car but now i have the choice of either putting these wheels on which will make the car look amazing but suffer the crashy ride and tyre costs and also buy spacers and wobble blts.
or buy a second set of 20vt refurb them mysel in graffite grey and have one set with goodyear f1's of the winter and one set with toyo r888's on for the dry summer use.
what do you guys think?
speed red coop by the way

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804402
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Originally Posted By: Goonv8
I love standard 20vt wheels in black or dark grey. Makes the car look mean, especially when lowered.


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: Theresa] #804405
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Absolutely agree.

The original wheels are the best, especially the LE ones.

Anyone know what is the feasibility of having a workshop make up 17 version of the original wheels?

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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: Sedicivalvole] #804496
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out of interest though how heavey are the standard wheels and i take it by going to a 7.5" with 18" wheel i should have better road holding over the 16's and the ballon tyres that go with it?

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804536
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I used to have a bit of a peugeot fettish and had a 205 gti and a 306 xsi. On the 205gti drivers forum they organised a group buy and had 17inch versions of the GTI6 wheel made up by a company in France I think it was. Cant remember how much it cost everyone, but they had to get something like 200 people on the list before the company would do anything about it. I certainly wouldn't want to have to organise all that, but if someone did I dont think they would have a problem getting a long list of interested parties.


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: djmobi] #804539
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I defo would be laugh

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804567
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Well depends, the more you have the more the cost comes down.

But I don't think we would need too many. I would have 5/6 alloyes allowing for spares etc. Might be worth an investigation smile


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: Sedicivalvole] #804576
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Originally Posted By: Sedicivalvole
Absolutely agree.

The original wheels are the best, especially the LE ones.



Agree with the exception of the 16v wheels which are imo, horrible!

These are much better

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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804627
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Those wheels do look nice......probably the best suited non standard wheels I've seen for a while.

Definitely agree on the 16V wheels. They dont do the car any justice at all


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: djmobi] #804778
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Blimey, you've got the handbrake sorted on the Portofino! Mine wouldn't hold on that slope bow

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804797
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Originally Posted By: AlanW
Blimey, you've got the handbrake sorted on the Portofino! Mine wouldn't hold on that slope bow

LOL - if you look very closely just under the back left wheel you'll see our brake failsafe system i.e. a bloody great brick!

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #804964
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I like the 16VT wheels, but they need to be painted darker to look good. Didcoops old 16VT was testimony to this fact! Lovely looking car.

Gareth

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: Sedicivalvole] #805479
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Originally Posted By: Sedicivalvole
But I don't think we would need too many. I would have 5/6 alloyes allowing for spares etc. Might be worth an investigation smile


Ok I've been in contact with a company. We would never get anywhere even close to 4000 wheels, but we might aswell see what options/prices we can come up with although I would be suprised if a Group Buy ever came of it. But would be great if it did.

If anybody has any pictures of the alloys that would be great, as I don't really fancy taking my wheels off. smile

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Hi Mark.

The 20 V Turbo is what we affectionately call a ‘P.I.T.A’ I’m sure you can work out what those letters stand for wink

We have looked at quite a few options to work with this car and not all have been satisfactory. Some owners try wheel spacers, often with PCD variation bolts (not so many 4x98 wheels available) and we don’t really deem this as being safe, especially with a high number of owners wanting to do track days etc. Also, I haven’t been able to find a decent supply of commercially available aftermarket wheels – certainly things from the Team Dynamics or Compomotive ranges fit but not everyone likes the designs

As the standard wheel is a 16” single piece design it would take quite a bit of money to make the tooling and moulds necessary to do a production run of 17” Off the top of my head it would probably take an order of around 4000 pcs to make it viable. What I can try and do is, if you email me some decent pictures of the wheel, email this out to some manufacturers and see if we can get any feedback.

Worst case scenario is looking at a 3 piece custom design, maybe with a billet centre but this will have to have an outer lip so the wheel wouldn’t match 100%

Email me some pics and we can look further into this.

Regards

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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #805599
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Does that mean you would need to get 1000 people to order a set of 4 or 4000 customers wanting a set each. If they want 4000 sets ordered and you take a rough cost of £800 per set, thats £3.2m to tool and design moulds....unless my maths is failing me.

Even if the only want 1000 buyers thats still £800,000 revenue to make the investment worthwhile.

I know nothing about wheel manufacturing and what goes into it, but that does seem a little steep.


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: djmobi] #805611
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my thoughts too, but we'll see what they come back with anyway. may not be a 1 piece design but see what they can do.

also gives me something to go off to see what other companies can do.

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #805613
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Originally Posted By: Mrs_LickyL
LOL - if you look very closely just under the back left wheel you'll see our brake failsafe system i.e. a bloody great brick!


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #805715
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JohnS had a set of 18's on his - Azev (no idea of the version) and the porsche brake conversion and it just looked superb. Looked original on the car and just gave it a more finished feel.

I think the standard wheels only being 16's do let the car down a little. But I've had them as standard for 10 years I like the originals - but I did think JohnS was the best after market ones I have seen.

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #805741
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I did search for six years to find the ones I liked and looked "factory" enough. This meant no letters, no fake screws or unneccesary features, just a clean design that would mirror the edgy lines of the Coupe. Especially with the LE/Plus-kit coming up.

http://sfk.ibk.se/depa/showfile.php?carpic_no=2353&type=picture

They are Liquidmetal static with GoodYear F1 Assymetric 225/35-18. Not on car yet but in April! smile

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: Per] #805820
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Those look very nice Per, make sure you post some photos once you've got them fitted cool


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: Boosted7] #805952
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Thanks steelgrey'98-brother, will do! smile

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: Per] #805953
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yep i agree,
original wheels - all the way . co . uk laugh

Turbo Plus Wheels in 18" (drool)

Its been quoted at about £1500 to get a set made up! someone please do it and start the trend . . . lol

or even a group buy? Now that would b interesting....


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: MarioCirillo] #805959
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i have the same dilema.
i have a very nice set of 18's that i bought for a different car but now i have the choice of either putting these wheels on which will make the car look amazing but suffer the crashy ride and tyre costs and also buy spacers and wobble blts.
or buy a second set of 20vt refurb them mysel in graffite grey and have one set with goodyear f1's of the winter and one set with toyo r888's on for the dry summer use.
what do you guys think?
speed red coop by the way
what do you guys think
looks of the 18's which do look exellent or grip of the standard wheels and the standard wheels given a drak l.e look?

Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: ] #806090
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Cant wait to see those wheel per loaded a picture of on the coop.


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: djmobi] #806095
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Probably the most badly worded sentance in the history of the forum.


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: djmobi] #806417
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I go along with that.... laugh


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: djmobi] #806843
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just to help you make up your minds so either theses
http://www.bandennollet.be/nl/img/AEZ-CYBER.JPG
or ie wheels.
i already have these wheels so its the cheaper option over l.e wheels.

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Okay did anyone locate a picture to forward to them?


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: Sedicivalvole] #806901
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i've sent an email with various pictures. they should have enough to go off smile

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I think my aftermarket wheels look better than the originals but each to their own wink


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I damaged one of my after-market 17" alloys on a massive pothole the other day and it can't be fixed. So, I put the original 16" wheels back on the front to make the car drivable - and realised how much better the car feels on the smaller wheels! It's not just softer, i think it drives better too.

It's probably nationwide, but since the snow in Feb all the roads have fallen apart around here and our council's policy is not to repair roads any more (apparently there was a vote and people thought this was a good way to save money...?) so, I think now more than ever it's great not to have low profiles on!

I will buy some more wheels when I can find some I like, but whilst I had been thinking of going to 18" for the looks, the improvement in ride on the 16" has convinced me otherwise!

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And.. those Liquidmetal Static's which Per posted the link to look very good! Might have to investigate.

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Just a thought...anyone know who originally made the fiat alloys?
Possibility that they may have tooled up for alternative size moulds which may still be in existance...
Have to agree a set of 17's in plus or 20vt style would be a deffo for me!
If not might have to copy Mrs_LickyL...those look a fine set of alloys smile

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Ive emailed countless companies over the years ranging from no response to £10,000 for four 18 inch 20vt wheels. I find the LE bodykit on mine drowns them making them appear smaller than they are.

Come on then, what about these?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/941827.htm

How much would we be talking to convert to five stud and purchase 4 wheels and tyres from alfa?

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They would look amazing....get Kayjey to add them to his alloy wheel tool.


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Re: Aftermarket wheels versus Originals [Re: djmobi] #814703
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Brand + type + image please

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Yep love the Original LE wheels..........doesn't show the brake dust! tongue

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Originally Posted By: Per
I did search for six years to find the ones I liked and looked "factory" enough. This meant no letters, no fake screws or unneccesary features, just a clean design that would mirror the edgy lines of the Coupe. Especially with the LE/Plus-kit coming up.

http://sfk.ibk.se/depa/showfile.php?carpic_no=2353&type=picture

They are Liquidmetal static with GoodYear F1 Assymetric 225/35-18. Not on car yet but in April! smile

Think mine are quite similar ... chinny

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll270/robshed/DSC00501.jpg

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Originally Posted By: RobShed

Yeah they have five spokes.. laugh

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Your math is brill. smile

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I always thought these suited the coupe IMHO

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Having the standard or plus wheel in a larger size would be superb. But it's going to be cost prohibitive I reckon.

A couple of years back, I found a japanese website which listed thousands of wheel designs, a couple of which were very similar to the standard 20vt wheel, AND available in 17 or 18 inch size. Unfortunately I just can't remember the site. So that's not much use to this discussion, really. laugh

But may be that's the other way around this; are there any wheels currently being made, which are very similar to the standard rim? Not five spokes, but four, with a twist in their design... Of course, whether they'd physically fit is another question.

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Similar style (questionable?)

Dotz Hanso
AEZ Lasco

And that's all I can find that's vaguely similar. Not the right number of spokes though, so back to drawing board on that idea!

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I love Antera 181's ever since I saw them in Autocar on some car like a Maserati but not a Maserati rolleyes they're a but like a "moving" OE 20vt wheel but with 5 spokes, I was looking for a nice 17" set on eBay forever... I thought they had been discontinued?


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Looks like they are still selling them in 17 and 18 inch Dave ?

Not sure how old that web page is, I just did a search for the 181 last night as it looks, like you said, a 5 spoke coupe wheel with the twist in it.

Also love the 321 smile

http://www.car-care-centre.co.uk/antera.htm list a few of the old style wheels.

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Can anyone tell me (please) if the standard LE wheels are the same pattern/size as standard 20v wheels, but just coated in a darker anthracite colour. I want to refurb the standard wheels for my LE as they're scuffed to bug&ery and would like to buy a cheap set to fit whilst refurbing the LEs. And when these are done, then spray the cheap wheels in anthracite to fit for winter.

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Yes, the LE wheels are the same design as the 20V Turbo wheels. The 20V n/a coupe has different wheels though.


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Originally Posted By: AdamScriv
And.. those Liquidmetal Static's which Per posted the link to look very good! Might have to investigate.

Pic on car: http://sfk.ibk.se/depa/showfile.php?carpic_no=2361&type=picture

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17" 20vt wheels would be my only choice and optional le colour.


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http://www.performancealloys.com/custom_wheels.asp

theses people seem to think it would cost double the price of normal aloys to get single sets made up.
As these wheels will be custom made they are normally twice the price of normal wheels. E.g. 17x7 £1200.00 Plus (PER SET OF FOUR, ALLOY WHEELS ONLY) depending of final specification

So if anything under £1500 for a set made,with and order of say 50 sets should bring it down dramatically shouldnt it?


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quick update

Originally Posted By: performance alloys
Hi Mark

I haven’t had much time to look at this due to holidays etc.

Any of the wheel manufacturers we have contacted as yet haven’t come with any positive answers but I have on going enquiries with an Italian firm and one big manufacturer in the far east.

You wouldn’t happen to know who the OEM manufacturer is?

Will keep you updated.
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so does anybody know who made the original alloys?

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Might be stamped on the inside of the wheels. For my Alfa wheels it says 'Toora'.


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Original wheels are made by Speedline, the number by the name on the inside of the wheel is SL1167, this could be a model number ?

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Thanks guys, will pass the info on!

Its a still a very long shot but no harm in trying! smile

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Another update

Originally Posted By: performance alloys
Hi Mark

Just to point out my previous email stating 4000 pcs would be needed was a typo!

I spoke to speedline directly, quite a useful exercise actually.

As suggested the Speedline OEM plant did cast the 20v wheel under license for Fiat – they would be legally bound not to supply that particular wheel to us (its 16” anyway). As an alternative they suggested making new casts for a very slightly different version of the wheel in 17”, design changes just to get around the licensing agreement with Fiat. Basically the tooling costs have to be taken into account. I think 500 wheels would be needed to make this viable to supply a wheel at a sensible price.

Maybe these figures are a bit more reasonable? I don’t know what sort of following the coupe club has but if you can get the numbers/financial backing etc.

I’ll make some calls etc on Monday and try and get a better idea of what 500 wheels would cost. The custom option is still there but again trying to get a design everyone likes in a 3 piece is tricky. Same cost issues if we ask a custom manufacturer to do a single piece.

To put this in perspective, our contact out in Asia produces 16 million wheels a year.

Hope this gives you a little hope!

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Is it worth putting this in Group Buy section to see how many would be interested or is it too early? Personally I would want 6/8 wheels, and I'm sure other people would want spares too. So we would probably need to be getting 80-100 people interested.

Obviously final cost is going to play a major part.

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Maybe abit early for a group buy, but im watching and very interested....

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We are obviously going to want different colours, so I asked the question. So another response

Originally Posted By: performance alloys
Hi

Yes, I can look at colour options depending on numbers, worst case scenario I can get wheels painted in the UK separately if the numbers for say anthracite are small or if you get silly enquiries for a couple of sets of yellow, blue etc (you never know)

I did a production run of Speedline wheels for a VW forum in the USA, these guys wanted OEM style but the originals hadn’t been produced for years. Ok, I was able to get the wheels cast as the moulds were in existence in the sizes required. I also did a small batch of bronze wheels for these guys

Have a look at this thread http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3741669&page=29

Really just a confidence boost for you, your enquiry is a bigger step due to the quantity and tooling etc but it shows we can tackle more unusual jobs.

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This is actually looking quite promising. He seems very keen to help us and replied to my last email within 20 minutes.

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id go with std wheels if they were 17s as 16s dont fill the arches. that would be my 1st choice every time.
only seen azevs C's and maybe 1 or 2 other wheels that look good in my opinion apart from the std

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Any more news on this ?

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Did anything ever come of this?


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I will chase it up now. Sorry didn't see your post Jimbo.

How was the other thread going witht the 18" plus wheels?

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Hi all,
I have 16v, but..
Just to share ideas about the topic, try googling.. smile

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Model Year PCD Offset Bore
Coupe 16V 95 to 01 4x98 35 to 42 58.1
http://www.carlsalter.com/wheel_fitments.html

Try this:
http://b2c.cokis-online.de/cokis/htm/index.jsp?COKIS_Disclaimer=true

Yo'll find some options, like:
http://b2c.cokis-online.de/bilder/rad/zoom/platin/p47sw4.jpg
with the below specs:
7.0 x 17, ET 38.0

or
http://www.auto-tuning-shop.com/static/proline_po_7_5x17_proline_po_alufelge_carbon_matt.html

details:
7,5 x 17 ProLine PO Alufelge
Carbon Matt - Frontflächen poliert
lieferbare Lochkreise:
4/98 ET38 (VS) - 4/100 ET38 - 4/108 ET25 - 5/98 ET35 (VS) - 5/100 ET35
5/108 ET40 - 5/110 ET40 (VS) - 5/112 ET35/45 - 5/114,3 ET40 - 5/120 ET38

hope that helps..

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any updates or is this dead in the water so to speak

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I know this thread is a little old, but I have two important points to make

1. Those wheels that Per has on his coop in Anthracite on a Vinci with a big break conversion would look amazing....I need to find a supplier in the UK

2. Does anyone know if anything cam of this........it looked like things were looking quite promising at one point


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Thanks, aren't they nice! smile

In scandinavia we have www.JetCarrier.com (Norway) which supplies a "fake" adress/postbox in New Jersey (then shipping!), hence the possibility to order from www.discounttiredirect.com.

I suppose there must be something similar in th UK..?

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cheers...just sent an e-mail to a dealer in the US......its worth seeing how much they would be with shipping. The wheels themselves are really cheap......$119 each without tyres. Probably best to get the rubber added over hear to save on shipping costs


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Yeah that's what I did too.
The tires (GoodYear F1) got much more expensive than the wheels.. laugh

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your right about the edgy design suiting the coop perfectly......are you using wobbly bolts?


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Yeah, and hubcentric 8mm spacers.

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