just fitted some black diamond grooved disc to front and used ebc ultimax pads , got a set for rear as well ,but not fitted them yet .
took it out for a spin , to start to bed them in .
not impressed ,
what should i be doing to get them to stop .
had pagid red dots in before and cross drilled grooved dics , and braking was ten times better .
scared to go to work in morning , in case i can,t stop got terrible fade when hot .

Pagid and Red Dot are two different makes

My recommendation - get the EBCs out straight away - I've never rated them in cars (although they are fairly well respected on two wheels)

There's a Group Buy for Pagid - check out the Group Buy section

If going for ebc pads only way is yellowstuff, i highly recommend the yellowstuff (when warmed up not felt anything like it, i am never disappointed when i brake)
The ulimax probably are not good enough for the coupes weight.
Either the yellowstuff or pagid pads are very good.
Don't go for mintex pads as i was disappointed with them.

Theres group buys for both pads, go have a look like nigel says.

Also alot of high performance pads need a set routine to bed them in, and needs to be followed to get the best out of them.

Ash

origionally had the pagid discs that AA sold and red dot pads . was very happy with these . then started to get warped disc feeling . took disc off found pad wear uneven and a rust ridge on inside of disc , had them on three years so i thought they would be ready for changing .
ordered the black diamond grooved discs , and foolishly listened to a mate who said ," use normal pads that way youll get two sets of pads out of discs "
the ebc pads have a brake in coating on them . a red coating on top of pad . supposedly to help clean disc first
followed their bedding in proceedure , but once they get hot they don,t stop .
ive ordered the black diamond predetor pads , to go with there discs .
waiting for them to come , look like fitting them at weekend
just wondering now whats the best combo disc / pads
or are some just incompatible ?

It takes a while to bed a pad in, your probably not even through the rough coating they put on them, I'd give them another few days of driving first before throwing them out.

I don't understand why you had a good set up that worked well and then changed it for a less effective one ?

i used red stuff on other cars before and once bedded in they aren't to bad. in fact when they are half way through there life they seam to bit well. don't last long though.

got some predetor pads today going to fit them tonight , while sun lasts .
let you know how they feel .
always bedded pads in before using 50 to 30 method about 5 times , never used any with this bed in coating on before .
ultimax pads are for oem replacment/ equivalent , just don,t think they can cope with any heat in them .

Predator? - never heard of them - I have a feeling you may just have jumped from the frying pan to the fire

black daimond own pads , to match discs , same spec as red dots . just fitted them and been for a spin , need more time to bed them in and to test them properly .
seem better trying not to go too mad on them at mo .
the ebc ones i took out had worn all the bed in coating off them .
discs are starting to shine up . ill see what happens with them next , and give some feedback next week

When i was bedding my yellowstuff pads in, a 50-30 wouldn't be no were near enough to get them hot enough, It was more like 70 to 20 stops 5 times, on the last one they about put me through the windscreen and been great since.
But see how you get on with the new pads you have, but if no look going with either the yellowstuff or the pagid, both known to work well.

Ash

quick update on the predetor pads fronts now seem ok , deffo no fade when hot !! although they don,t seem to be a great as the red dots were ,
but in wet conditions seem to work better .
i think for a medium cost brake pad they work ok . £75 for fronts and £ 35 for rears
black diamond discs were £132 front pair and £ £65 pair rear .
going to fit rear discs and pads next weekend and clean up bias valve .

Hi Ash, would the yellowstuff work really well even with standard rubber brake lines up front, as been told you cant use braided lines on the coupe !! ps. still not entirely sure why... thanks

Do a search on braided hoses or goodridge and you will see why, they split and you're left with no brakes at all, a few owners have had very scary experiences. Goodridge did a recall and no longer supply them for the coop, understandably as it was going to end in tears soon. There are others though that can be used.

Do a search

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