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Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? #833759
17/05/2009 19:58
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I know there are lots of Ebay IC options, however having a quick browse just stumbled across this one which looks very cheap...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FIAT-COUPE-FRONT-MOUNTED-TURBO-INTERCOOLER-2-0-turbo_W0QQitemZ250426399251QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item250426399251&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Anyone had experience/views?

No mention of the type it is however bar & plate etc - can you tell from the picture what type it is?


Coupe now sold!
Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: RusH] #833773
17/05/2009 20:13
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That not a bad price is it...

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #833789
17/05/2009 20:25
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rubbish IMO never gonna be the build quality of Pro Alloy or pace. plus once youve bought all tubing hoses would work out bout same price as 2nd hand pro ally one.

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #833809
17/05/2009 20:47
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Thts is just an intercooler sitting in behind the bumper,its not even fitted.

Its just to try and shift more of these chinese/bay things.

Also its just for an intercooler,its not a kit with piping,so be aware of that.

You will have to cut and modify the car,as with all ebay coupe kits,like that turborevs muck.

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #833853
17/05/2009 21:48
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wouldnt say the turbo revs fmic is muck,it's a quality made item,
not a straight fit !! but not hard to mod area
and does the same job as pro and pace smile

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #833861
17/05/2009 21:55
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for that kind of money you can buy a evo 6 or 7 intercooler which fit and work very well with coupes

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #833895
17/05/2009 22:34
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Its a heavy and cheap chinese piece of muck that DOESNT fit easily.

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #833913
17/05/2009 23:00
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That's my one on my car!! I said they could use the pic by the way (I should get Royalties!). It's a universal intercooler so you've got to make it fit, just like nearly every other i/c. None of them fit with absolutely no mods.

I reviewed it on my project page:

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/...p;Words=kj16v&Search=true#Post833278

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #833916
17/05/2009 23:03
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Originally Posted by paddy147
Thts is just an intercooler sitting in behind the bumper,its not even fitted.


LMAO!!

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: kj16v] #834083
18/05/2009 10:00
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So it is ok then KJ?

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834140
18/05/2009 12:26
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That looks similar to what was on my car when I got it (and still is).
click to enlarge
I don't have any pics with out the bumper on of how it is fitted now but it uses less pipe work now.

It seams to work OK but I'm running 1.1 is of boost.
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close up
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edit2: My one is ~2.5"ID IIRC at least the hard pipes are that are left.

Last edited by Jef_uk; 18/05/2009 12:40.
Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834177
18/05/2009 13:29
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Originally Posted by Jef_uk
That looks similar to what was on my car when I got it (and still is).
click to enlarge


I think I know the reason its not very expensive - its about half the size of a ProAlloy FMIC

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834183
18/05/2009 13:38
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Originally Posted by symonh2000
So it is ok then KJ?


Yep certainly is for my application mate.

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: Nigel] #834184
18/05/2009 13:40
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Isnt that a turbo diesel type one?

Ross

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834247
18/05/2009 15:37
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Originally Posted by h2ypr
Isnt that a turbo diesel type one?

Ross


There's no such thing They're the same for Diesels and petrols.

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: kj16v] #834351
18/05/2009 18:28
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I also use these "chinese intercoolers" and they are wery good ( not the same as pics.. )
the little chinese hands can make some good stuff also, remember, that they have learned all the time more and more wink

will I ever buy here +300 intercooler, or will I use same or more effective chinese one, that costs me only 30% ? hmm
rolleyes

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834357
18/05/2009 18:39
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the same size cooler here in Finland costs 59e so thats around 52,50 pounds

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834359
18/05/2009 18:43
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Originally Posted by jtm
or will I use same or more effective chinese one,


can you back that up with some figures, or are you just guessing?

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834374
18/05/2009 19:00
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some of the real "tuners" here have tested these 60 x 30 china coolers against Finnish made ones..
and results have been same, or even better flow with chinese.
so many factory use these days chinaforce laugh so you really cant always tell, where does really your part is made..

I have smaller one, and figures from street are more interesting to me..

and have read, that temperature is low ( intake I mean cool )

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834405
18/05/2009 19:45
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the main reason for the Finnish intercooler ( one seller at least ) was that the pipe was too fat, so it could not release the heat fast enough, so temperatures get higher ..
( pipe inside the cooler )

there are temperature tests also, with chinacoolers..
after 5 speed test ( 100-190kmh ) outside temperature 4 and after fifth run, intake temperature 13,5 celsius..

cool

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834814
19/05/2009 13:34
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This is a great site but one of the few things that annoys me is that there seems to be too many people on here who state their unqualified opinion or hearsay and make it out as fact.

Some of the posts on this thread are a good example; someone asked a very good question "Is it any good?" Suddenly certain people jump in running their mouths off about "this is crap, buy this instead. Do what I say." Do they have any figures to back up their statements? No. Have they even tried one? Probably not. Turns out the people who have actually tried these particular items like them.

If you’ve got an opinion on something then fine, say it’s your opinion. If you’ve got personal experience of something and have numbers to prove it then even better. But what’s the point in regurgitating what you heard off a mates mate on some forum somewhere and shouting off like you know what you’re talking about? It doesn’t help anyone.

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: kj16v] #834839
19/05/2009 14:03
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Before (Standard WMIC)
Ambient temperature – 11.5 degrees
Boost Pressure before I/C – 0.85 bar @ 6000rpm
Outlet temperature – 55 degrees
Boost Pressure after I/C – 0.7 bar

After (Pro Alloy FMIC)
Ambient temperature – 15.3 degrees
Boost Pressure before I/C – 0.85 bar @ 6000rpm
Outlet temperature – 29 degrees
Boost Pressure after I/C – 0.8 bar

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: kj16v] #834853
19/05/2009 14:16
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hmm well have to reply on this thing :

friends friends plaa pla plaa ...

here you can find more facts on the test on Finnish vs china
cooler..

http://www.volvolandia.com/SVF/index.php?PHPSESSID=921365bf9f02837ec96c5d52044280fe&topic=2467.0

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834855
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hope you underastand..

there is many temperature tests there

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #834859
19/05/2009 14:24
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Originally Posted by eldinho
Before (Standard WMIC)
Ambient temperature – 11.5 degrees
Boost Pressure before I/C – 0.85 bar @ 6000rpm
Outlet temperature – 55 degrees
Boost Pressure after I/C – 0.7 bar

After (Pro Alloy FMIC)
Ambient temperature – 15.3 degrees
Boost Pressure before I/C – 0.85 bar @ 6000rpm
Outlet temperature – 29 degrees
Boost Pressure after I/C – 0.8 bar


Diff with PA: 29 - 15.3 = 13.7 degrees

I have seen similar figure on my widget when I was on the track. The ambient temp was 20 degrees and intake temp was 35 degrees. So almost the same as above.


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Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: kj16v] #835266
19/05/2009 23:57
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Originally Posted by kj16v
This is a great site but one of the few things that annoys me is that there seems to be too many people on here who state their unqualified opinion or hearsay and make it out as fact.

Some of the posts on this thread are a good example; someone asked a very good question "Is it any good?" Suddenly certain people jump in running their mouths off about "this is crap, buy this instead. Do what I say." Do they have any figures to back up their statements? No. Have they even tried one? Probably not. Turns out the people who have actually tried these particular items like them.

If you’ve got an opinion on something then fine, say it’s your opinion. If you’ve got personal experience of something and have numbers to prove it then even better. But what’s the point in regurgitating what you heard off a mates mate on some forum somewhere and shouting off like you know what you’re talking about? It doesn’t help anyone.



Hey interesting points of view dude,
but I think people on the forum might be judging the country of origin’s reputation on its total list of products that they most probably have had experience with , ranging from cancer and burning incurring sofas, poison food, toxic pet food, Mickey mouse engineering products, TV and video that self destructs, clothing that has irreversible affects on the skin, tools that last as long as you don’t use them, car audio that melts, and light bulbs that whistle Dixie before exploding etc etc etc the list is endless, so please excuse my good friends/fellow fccuk members from not being over elated with yet another Chinese product,
But hey good luck with your intercooler




Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #835302
20/05/2009 03:59
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weather +4dec C
before first run 11C (7 over the main temperature)
1 10.4
2 12.8
3 14.5
4 16.1
5 17.5, so with 50 cm x 30cm china cooler 13.5 over

the main temperature after these 5 runs !
not too bad for a cheap crap !
runs were on this test 80kmh - 140kmh with 1.45 - 1.6bar

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #835372
20/05/2009 10:05
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Originally Posted by jtm
weather +4dec C
before first run 11C (7 over the main temperature)
1 10.4
2 12.8
3 14.5
4 16.1
5 17.5, so with 50 cm x 30cm china cooler 13.5 over

the main temperature after these 5 runs !
not too bad for a cheap crap !
runs were on this test 80kmh - 140kmh with 1.45 - 1.6bar

+4dec C
Now that is nice summer temp in Finland wink


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Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: Freddan72] #835393
20/05/2009 10:50
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I think it looks ok. Certainly fits into the airintake better than Evo, Pace or Proalloy. Kj16V, Where did you find it for £50..?

Re: Ebay FMIC - anyone seen these before....? [Re: ] #835400
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Originally Posted by Per
I think it looks ok. Certainly fits into the airintake better than Evo, Pace or Proalloy. Kj16V, Where did you find it for £50..?


Ebay. I used the "make an offer" button. Think I offered £55

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