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Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner #850204
15/06/2009 20:17
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I currently have Bilstein shocks on my 20VT6 with standard springs.

I'm looking at getting the Eiback spring kit, which looks to be the best handling setup without spending a load of cash on coilovers etc.

I was wondering does anyone runs the same setup on a daily runner?

I dont mind it being a firm ride, but after a conversation at AutoItalia the other week, I got the impression I may regret lowering the car and suffer the ride!

Cheers
Phil


Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: phil_20VT] #850762
16/06/2009 14:01
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I have Bilstein Shocks and Ebach springs and I drive mine daily and have done for 2 years nearly.

The mods were on the car before i got it so I cant compare it to a standard coop as i've never driven one but it's not too bad.

You certainly gain a new appreciation for well finished roads and hate all speed bumps but if you're slow over them then its not a problem.

You get used to it and its not really a problem. You get loud banging on the smallest of cracks which might get annoying for you. If you were closer I'd take you out in mine so you can judge for yourself. I could try a video so you can see/hear what its like?

Now if you'll excuse me I'm due at the hospital to gethe these compression fractures looked at. tongue


Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: AlistairM] #850782
16/06/2009 14:19
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Really depends on your road conditions. If you have pot holes you'll hate how crashy the ride can get.

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #850974
16/06/2009 21:08
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Alistair, Can I take you up on that offer at some point? I'm slightly closer!

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #851212
17/06/2009 10:13
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I think you guys have confirmed my suspisions cheers.

So long as my insurance dont grumble, think i'm gonna give them a go.


Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: phil_20VT] #851247
17/06/2009 11:10
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I changed my standard shocks and springs for this combo a couple of years so have experienced the before and after. It certainly is a lot nicer round corners but with the downsides that Alistair mentioned above. Mine is a daily runner too.

However saying all that I'm soon to swap my Eibachs back to standard because I've moved house and the lowered springs mean that I can't get on my drive without some wierd 5 point manoevure to avoid taking my front end off.

Note ground clearance!
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Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: Wishy] #851313
17/06/2009 12:19
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The ground clearance can indeed be awkward on occasion. Must say the car looks great for being that bit lower over standard. thumb

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #851401
17/06/2009 13:29
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Originally Posted By: pilgrim
Alistair, Can I take you up on that offer at some point? I'm slightly closer!


Yeah no problem. Not sure where abouts you are but I'm sure we can work something out.


Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: AlistairM] #851421
17/06/2009 13:55
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I can also confirm that it makes your car look good...

Some pics below

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Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: AlistairM] #851424
17/06/2009 13:56
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I've had this combo on my car for well over a year now... no problems to report smile


Ex 20VT - now something far more sensible'ish... smile
Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: Tartandude] #851818
17/06/2009 22:59
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As above. 2 1/2 years on this combo and some 45k miles. No problems to report.

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: Hyperlink] #851961
18/06/2009 08:33
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Originally Posted By: Hyperlink
As above. 2 1/2 years on this combo and some 45k miles. No problems to report.


except you're an inch shorter now right? tongue


Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: phil_20VT] #852001
18/06/2009 09:44
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Bilstein and Eibach's are a great compromise for a road coupe - I dont think that they are harsh at all!

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: Tartandude] #852045
18/06/2009 11:00
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I've just fitted this to mine, it handles well and its a lovely ride. At the same time I fitted a lower brace, new top mounts, arms etc

Lovely and balanced now laugh

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Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #852084
18/06/2009 12:17
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The said combo must be the most common here of all, next to the std. one.

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: Per] #852139
18/06/2009 13:47
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Just bought a set this lunch time.

As I won't b doing them myself, it'll be less labour if i have the lower arms done at the same time rather than seperatly at a later date wont it?

Cheers


Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: phil_20VT] #852157
18/06/2009 14:19
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Yes - you'll also only have to pay once for tracking...

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #852166
18/06/2009 14:37
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Forgot the tracking, cheers!


Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: AlistairM] #852522
18/06/2009 22:20
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Originally Posted By: AlistairM
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Alistair, Can I take you up on that offer at some point? I'm slightly closer!


Yeah no problem. Not sure where abouts you are but I'm sure we can work something out.


Manningtree - any chance that you're around for the meeting in Norfolk on the 19th July?

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #853272
20/06/2009 00:42
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I run both on my daily runner. Oh - it ain't a coupe though laugh



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Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: phil_20VT] #855855
24/06/2009 21:16
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FWIW I've now got my coop back to standard springs (but kept my Bilsteins) so I've just done the exact opposite of what you are about to.

My first impression is that the bumps are a bit less crashy but it isn't as flat through bends. So reverse that and yours will be flatter through bends but a bit more crashy over bumps. HTH!

I'm now happy that I've managed to get my car on the drive in one manoevure for the first time and could get on forwards so I didn't have to climb over the passenger seat to get in or out. smile


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Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: Wishy] #855912
24/06/2009 22:28
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Mine has both (and some other handling mods!) and is my daily runner - I find it absolutly fine, but most of my driving is on good A roads or the motorway


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Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: GraemeC] #857779
28/06/2009 13:23
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Well they are on.

The looks alone are enough to make up for the hard ride. Not a fan of modded coupes but the slightly lower look really suits it.

Not really had a chance to chuck it round some corners yet, but initial impressions are its much improved.

Yes the ride is quite firm, you can feel everything on the road, but i think i like it like that.

Will I say the same thing months down the line though?!?

Cheers for all the advice, think im off out for a spin.


Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: phil_20VT] #857787
28/06/2009 13:50
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My coupe seems very crashy on potholes, and its very stiff.
And i have standard springs on it.
and i presume standard shocks?
Could my shocks not be standard ones, or is a standard coupe still crashy?
i have to aim the coupe around potholes!
any pics of a standard shock so i can compare?
or is it just the 17s making it crashy do you think?

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #858022
29/06/2009 08:33
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the 17's wont help you - but as standard a coupe is not exactly a floaty cruiser....

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #858026
29/06/2009 08:44
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From my experience with lowering springs and billies (on my old 16vt), there were many occasions where i could actually go faster on the standard setup simply becuase travelling over bumpy roads in the lowered setup made the car difficult to drive.

With the standard setup you would barely notice the bumps and would therefore have more confidence on the road. Then with the lowered setup you'd spend so much time crashing over bumps (or tryigng to avoid them) that you just couldnt put your foot down.

It kind of reminded me of when they put that F1 car on the autobahn, it simply couldn't go at top speed because it was bouncing all over the place.

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #858028
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Truffle, for this very reason I have decided to put my car back to standard suspension because the roads are so so bad around where I live that I cannot have any confidence in the cars' behaviour as a daily drive as my front end is always bopping over the rough roads.
And trying to avoid all the pot holes is a nightmare.

Across country roads I can travel quicker point to point in my 99 punto 60 than in my coupe because the ride is so much softer.

My lowering spring will be available soon laugh

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #858031
29/06/2009 09:24
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For a start coupes handle better at a standard ride height anyway.

Lowering springs are a bodge job - you need better damping to cope with bumpy roads.

Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: ] #858449
29/06/2009 22:46
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So if your keeping the standard ride hight does adding billies give you a more controlled ride than standard shocks?


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Re: Eibach and Bilstein Combo on a Daily Runner [Re: sandytim] #858451
29/06/2009 22:51
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What he said, I'd like to know this too...

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