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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
[Re: TurboNick]
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30/07/2009 19:03
30/07/2009 19:03
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eldinho
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Fast spool and 500bhp don't go together do they??  Are you still on 2litre or 2.4? If I was you I would get some drives in some cars to help you decide, as Flea seemed happier wih his setup on a smaller turbo. Its not all about bhp figures at the end of the day!
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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30/07/2009 19:09
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In 2 litre and 500bhp you will have lag no matter what turbo you use I'm afraid nick, larger capacity is the only real solution to that problem, you should have a go in squids car, it's a very good balance
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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30/07/2009 22:19
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Nick I have always said that turbo is too big but if you really want to chase it then you need supporting mods. I still think to run that turbo you need to go 2.4 or go mad on every mod possible to the 2.0. You know JohnS is selling all the 2.4 bits so if you sell your pistons and rods you can go 2.4  and then that turbo sounds tasty 
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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30/07/2009 23:05
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Another one to look at is the Borg Warner S258, or larger 3 series, they spool about 300-500rpm slower than a gt3076R but support more top end power, due to bigger wheels, they are GT series type money, and I believe have a more forgiving graph than a gt3582R. Someone on the board (maybe from Brazil on a Marea) make silly power with a borg warner, over 500bhp anyway, maybe you can find them and have a chat I have never run one but research them a fair bit when I was looking around On the down side they are large and very heavy. Have a look at this link -this is the smaller s256, but they might be worth looking at - ie researching http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2220363
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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30/07/2009 23:29
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im definatley not going for gt3071r i know im being silly but realy i wanna try something different. i know flee has the gt3076r-wg but dont forget his is internal wastegate and i will be running substatial head work and tubular manifold with t3 flange (if i buy that turbo) i was just wondering if theres a turbo that spools quicker with the same ability. i've decided i want to aim for 500bhp but trying to get the best setup. i wonder if johns would just sell me his engine. but im guessing he would want quite a bit for it. Also i might have to pm beggie because his is a 2.0 16v with the gt3076r aint it?
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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31/07/2009 00:30
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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02/08/2009 08:32
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oddly enuf on my 2.4 with the GT3076 but with a 0.64 turbine housing, I have no probs keeping it on the boil, in fact on the last r/road session with flea my coop was acutally strangling itself, just wouldn't make any more power, even with higher boost settings, as it just missed. I've now fitted a 0.86 housing to the turbine, so it'll be intersting to see how much different the engine responds to this, noting that I may see more lag ( hopefully not noticeable ) can't always have it both ways I'm afraid  If I can get a comfy 400+hp, I'll leave it at that, as I REALLY don't want to be swapping 'boxes on a regular basis 
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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02/08/2009 15:45
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Thanks for all the advice guys but me being me im going for gt3076r.64 external wastegate. Should be interesting to see the difference in power delivery between mine, flea's and beggies cars as they will be pretty similar but ill be running a smaller turbine housing.
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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02/08/2009 20:54
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I'd really like to see a coupe with a VNT or similar type turbo.
Surely this is a viable way of creating a good power coupe with low lag?
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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02/08/2009 22:34
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I'd really like to see a coupe with a VNT or similar type turbo.
Surely this is a viable way of creating a good power coupe with low lag?
no one has managed to get it to work in a petrol application apart from Porsche, many have tried and failed
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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03/08/2009 16:38
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Also, laying that sort of power down on the road will be a problem. I would like to see how many enthusiastic launches you get per gearbox.
Personally, I would not want a larger turbo then my current GT2871 with a .86 housing. I'm really pleased with the response on mine. If I was doing another rebuild now, the only thing I might consider doing differently is going for a 2.4. But it is all a question of money, and how much you want to spend.
Jason told me that you are getting a tubular manifold with an external wastegate, so I am sure you will be extremely pleased with the results when it is finished.
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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03/08/2009 16:39
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Actually, a NOS system would probably be the best way of getting big power and relatively little lag....
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Re: fast spool for 500bhp
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03/08/2009 16:53
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eldinho
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when does your turbo come on boost Richard?
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