i think jonboy is refering to alloy that are called multistud, they have both 4 x 100 AND 4 x 114 (8 holes in total)
if so then yes you can use wobbly bolts with the four holes set at 4 x 100 pcd
as for length
hubs = 12mm thickness
discs = 7mm thickness
Standard alloys non taper section = 10mm
The standard bolts are 29mm thread length.
i have 15mm spacers (used to increase my offset)
12 + 7 + 15 + 10 = 45, so i use 45mm thread length
you just needs to find out how thick the non tapered part in the alloys are, and you can calculate your required thread length
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(BTW some sellers advertise total bolt length, not thread length, so be carefull
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Ninja