Yes, you're right...it was a "printing error"
I read 4.57V not 4.75V...so about 700kg/h on that curve. (BTW, our MAF has a different code...it ends with .514)

Anyway, even if the value could be correct, it's out of standard specs...do yo think it was intentional from Fiat working out of bounds ?

PiZ

Ciao Mario,

I'll be very glad to send you a copy of the sw...I think that language won't be a problem for you !
Regarding the link, I don't know if I will be able to give any support or regular updates to the software, as it is free and I work on it in my spare time (and having a young daughter...you know... )
This is the reason why I decided to give it only to Fiat Coupé Passion Club members.

Obviously, thinking that my sw is running also in UK would be a honour !

PiZ

Yes, the coupe one ends with number 514, but it doesn't matter. The sensor element is always the same. It's only the housing which makes the difference. The 519 has the same housing

Ok, thanks !

In fact, I was superimposing the data logged with my software on Bosch curve n. 3 and they match quite well

No answer ?
Do you think that injection is mapped and ECU works in open loop at over 640kg/h ?

ECU works open loop at WOT. How much below that point it switches I don't know...

Don't forget peak air consumption is not at peak revs. Whether that's significant or not, I don't know.

Piz, I can't see your software - I think your screenshots went away! But at least someone else is working on this. There are guys dying to get testing for the 1.8 engine (Barchetta, 1.8 16v coupe) which uses the Hitachi controller, and I've got no chance to do one. If I can offer any advice please ask.

Neil

Neil, didn't think the 1.8 Coupe had the hitachi controller. As far as I know, only the Barchetta and the Punto HGT have the Hitachi (but even then the configuration for the HGT is different).

Hmmm... had a search through my documentation. Conflicting info. Some say Hitachi MFI-001, others say Bosch M2.10.4.

Should have dismantled the 1.8 SE I once got from Fiat.

My docs say Barchetta, Bravo/a, Delta, Tipo, Dedra, and Coupe - all 1.8 16v engines in either 115 or 132 bhp. There are several versions for some vehicles.

That's dated 1996. The Bosch unit is certainly in the middle four of those, but I've nothing linking it to the Barchetta or the Coupe (except 2.0).

Coupe had 139 bhp?

That's what it says.

Yes, 1.8 16V have Hitachi controllers.
Post '98 models have an Hitachi MFI-104, while oldest ones have Hitachi MFI-018. They both have 132CV as far as I know...

The two ecus have different comunication protocol. I am now working on post '98 MFI and it is quite tricky to break in, even if it should be a quasi-standard KWP2000 protocol.

There is also a third version of Hitachi ECU for Euro3 models, but I think it was installed only on few final edition 1.8s...

Thanks Neil, I'll ask your help if I can't work it out...
For the screenshots: I will upload them again tomorrow

PiZ

FIAP...Fix It Again PiZ

Now those screenshots should pop up ! I've changed another server...hope it's the last one !

PiZ

Interesting... how do you deduce the pressure? An external sensor, or calculate it on the fly from load?

It's a rough estimation based on load.
I put it there for users that haven't a boost gauge...
The istantaneous power calculation is based on speed derivative, weight and coast-down curve....and it works quite well. It can be fine tuned to the specific car.
Also gear estimation, needed to compute power, works flawlessly...

PiZ

PiZ, do you have the software available somewhere?

Hi Kayjey,

I have seen your post only today !

I don't distribute the software outside the Club for many reasons. But, if you want a copy to try it, send me a PM....

Guess what I heard today - it seems that if you have two copies of Startrek 16vt running, you can talk to a Ferrari F40...

Does it talk back though?

So I am led to believe. Seems it uses the same ECU, one for each bank of the V8.

Is it April the 1st ?

Nope... http://rp-lab.com/iaw_monitor.shtml

So if I buy two 16vt and weld them together I can have a cheap F40 !!

hi im urgently in need of reading codes as my car wont start after a rebuild and is showing the injector light on the dash, but i cant seem to get startrek to work for me

im having trouble getting the ftdi drivers to load for the lead i bought? xp doesnt recognise them as the correct ones for the lead, so ive opened the plug and the chip is marked ftdi ft232bl 729-1. im finding footnotes on the ftdi site about this and it says if the vid and pid dont match it wont recognise it, so i used usbview like it said and my lead seems to be vid 0x0403 and pid 0xFAD8. it says the driver files can be modified and it will work but i have no idea how to do this? any help would be much appreciated, even if it means pointing me in the direction of another kkl lead on ebay that will definately work perhaps? thanks in advance

Sadly I've never had this issue - were there any drivers that came with the lead? There's sometimes a tiny disc in there, and I'd expect that to work. I've no idea how you'd modify the driver files...

If that fails, Sugerbear on here has lead kits for sale, I believe.

Worst case - but probably a bit far for most people - is to download a convenient linux and run it under wine. It's a little fiddly to set up but there are instructions in the FAQ section on the microwidget, IIRC.

thanks, no drivers with the lead and the seller hasnt replied when i asked, so think ill have a quick look at the linux option first

pm me your email address and I will send you the drivers I have for my ones. It might just work.

If not I will have some more leads available this week if you want a set add your name to the group buy.

Cheers

Rob.

It may be the easiest way to just by another KKL lead from another seller.

Or you can buy them from me knowing they work and including all the software for the 16v , 16vt , 20v and 20vt

If I short the K L connector on the micro-widget, would it work with 20vt star trek software on a 20vt?