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GTV Rear Subframe
#110509
10/05/2006 17:00
10/05/2006 17:00
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JohnS
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I thought I'd post up a little more info on the Alfa GTV rear subframe. There's been talk on the forum previously of the possibility of fitting it to the coupe, but no-one has really looked at it in any detail.
The benefit is that it has far more advanced rear suspension with double wishbones and twin lower links etc. as well as being fully adjustable.
Well having obtained one it looks like it will fit to the coupe as the mounting points are in the same place. It does present some problems though -
- The GTV fuel tank is different and would be required to do the conversion as it sits integrally on the subframe, You might even need to just go with a tyre well fuel cell to be honest as I'm not sure about the GTV's spare wheel well being in exactly the same place. (not checked)
- The exhaust path would probably have to be modified.
- You would need a bespoke rear undertray
- The GTV has a wider track by 25mm a side (51mm total)
The springs and shock mounts are integral to the subframe(i.e. they do not go into the chasis) as with the coupe.
The antiroll bar on the rear is uprated compared to the coupe standard unit
If anyone is serious about making their coupe handle, then I think it's got to be better than the coupes setup just because it is adjustable, let alone the fact that it will reduce unwanted movements. But there's definitely more to it than bolting on.
Former low boost hero - 616BHP@1.5 bar. 2.4 20VT RIP
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
#110510
10/05/2006 17:12
10/05/2006 17:12
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Could have told you that Matt (from S.A) told me this in a PM on the old forum before it died. I believe he has this fitted on his coupe already
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
#110512
10/05/2006 17:17
10/05/2006 17:17
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Dont know, he never said, but he also told me a cheap twin clutch solution which i never saved either But as JohnS has mentioned already, you can see the cost is going to be quite high (fuel tank, suspension, exhaust modifications)
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
#110513
10/05/2006 19:05
10/05/2006 19:05
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Anonymous
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John the springs and shock on the coupe subframe are not connected to the body either they are all contained on the subframe. I have a friend who has done this on his tipo. Had to cut the wheel well out.
rich
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
#110514
11/05/2006 00:22
11/05/2006 00:22
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JohnS
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Dunno if any of the cars (tipo, coupe,GTV or dedra for that matter) have the same spare wheel well to be honest. Does the Tipo have a space-saver or full spare?
Former low boost hero - 616BHP@1.5 bar. 2.4 20VT RIP
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
#110516
11/05/2006 00:30
11/05/2006 00:30
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Tempra and Dedra have a wheel well too.
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
#110517
11/05/2006 02:35
11/05/2006 02:35
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JohnS
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sorry, I mean is the wheel well the same size and in the same position on all these cars (which is why I mention the size of the spare wheel)
Former low boost hero - 616BHP@1.5 bar. 2.4 20VT RIP
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
#110520
11/05/2006 20:26
11/05/2006 20:26
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Anonymous
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I've seen a 20VT with GTV rear frame, so it's definitely possible.
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
[Re: JohnS]
#1535335
25/04/2015 12:53
25/04/2015 12:53
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Gimmo
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
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#1535587
27/04/2015 10:52
27/04/2015 10:52
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
[Re: JohnS]
#1535600
27/04/2015 12:41
27/04/2015 12:41
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Gimmo
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Sorry, I don't know how to upload photos from Dropbox! Please, download the photos and upload them to some photo hosting service, the link for the download is the following Multilink 1 Multilink 2 Multilink 3 Multilink 4 Now can you see them?
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
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#1535605
27/04/2015 13:33
27/04/2015 13:33
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It'd be good to see the finished article. I for one would be very interested in upgrading to this set up!
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
[Re: JohnS]
#1535607
27/04/2015 13:55
27/04/2015 13:55
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Gimmo
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Trappy, can you see the photos now? -- Ps: I saw in your signature that you have a short-shifter! How to make it???
Last edited by Gimmo; 27/04/2015 15:29.
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
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#1535624
27/04/2015 16:20
27/04/2015 16:20
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Trappy
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I can see the photos. I could before by following the links. What I meant is finished as in the exhaust fitted etc. At the moment, it looks a little... short I bought my shortshift off of Taffy20vT years ago. Unfortunately, he's now moved on...
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
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#1535628
27/04/2015 16:33
27/04/2015 16:33
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Gimmo
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I am sorry, but no idea about the exhaust, the guys didn't make any other photo.
Maybe the original Alfa exhaust can be modified and fitted? The chassis is the same, so..
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
[Re: JohnS]
#1536433
03/05/2015 11:37
03/05/2015 11:37
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Stichl
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Nice mod - but... Next Problem - where to mount the fuel tank...
20VT coupegrale 4x4
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Re: GTV Rear Subframe
[Re: JohnS]
#1537086
07/05/2015 14:29
07/05/2015 14:29
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Gimmo
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Yes, it is. I fixed the link
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