Maggie Thatcher Dead !

Party tonight!
Hope the fireworks I've had for the last 4 years still work.
I can't get that wizard of Oz tune out of my head..... " Hey ho the witch is dead"


Too soon?

Yes....

Love her or loathe her, nobody can deny that she was a political giant and deserves her place in history

How many other PMs have had a film made about them? - not many, I suspect

They say one should never speak ill of the dead, so I had better keep quiet as I have absolutely nothing possitive to say regarding this person

Richard Nixon, Tony Blair & JFK to name a few....

As a young man I always assumed I'd take the advice of Elvis Costello and Tramp the Dirt Down when Mrs Thatcher died. I hated her with am unwavering loathing for decades. However, now that she finally has gone, I find no satisfaction in it for 2 reasons:
1) Whoever she may have been, at the end she was a frail husk no different from any other human and irrelevant in terms of politics or other criteria.
2) The vindictive, divisive and fundamentally unjust policies she crusaded for live on in the shape of May, Osborne and countless others.

What's to celebrate?

I'll tell you who else deserves a place in history and has a load of films about them - Hitler.


Not, of course, that I'm trying to imply that Hitler was anywhere near as bad as Maggie

Were they all PM?

I saw one about the life of John Major? Well the actor had a John Major mask on and not a lot else...

Point Break?

I think you'll find JFK and Richard Nixon were American? And Presidents. So 1 out of 3...

OK my bad

Like Hitler

I'm completely indifferent to her death.

I was too young to experience her leadership first hand and everything I've ever read or heard seems to be so biased one way or another that I find it impossible to formulate an opinion on the woman.

However, if she was so unpopular, why did we vote her into power on three separate occasions?

Probably the most uneducated post I've read today!

I think you'll find it's "Ding Dong the witch is dead"

My views are best kept to myself but.....

There was a film about Churchill and there was definitely one about Disraeli.

Michael Sheen played Blair twice (and is rumoured to be up for a third), but only one of these (The Deal) was actually about Blair (the other being The Queen)

Beeb also did a 60-minute drama about David Lloyd George.

Aside from Blair, I'm pretty sure that Lady Thatcher would have been content to be mentioned in the same breath as other film PMs

At the end of the day, its the nature of politics that a large portion of the population would not like her. However, to compare her to Hitler is distasteful and disrespectful.

With a spirit of open mindedness can anyone enlighten me to a good thing that She did. something that was good for the nation and that has had a lasting legacy for us all to this day?


My political hero gave us, The NHS (Free Healthcare for all), Workers rights (Rights to paid Holidays, sick pay, rest breaks at work & the introduction of pensions for workers) The welfare state, Rights for women & children, The right to free education for ALL children, free college education and university scholarships. Oh yes and he provided FREE MILK FOR ALL SCHOOL CHILDREN.

Much of this fellows leadership legacy is lasting to this day. This despite efforts to destroy them by the style over substance mp's whome inhabit Parliament today. Maggie was one of the first of those and Blaire was much the same.

Excellent. Cheers.
Its been a while since I've seen the film. The joke I had earlier makes sense now!

I'm sure she wouldn't have minded being mentioned in the same breath as Blair. What greater tribute can there be than to see your enemies become like you?



Indeed, and I apologise to Mrs Hitler and all the little Hitlers.

Already made the third = The special relationship 2010

The beeb did a whole series about Lloyd George. I remember the theme music being superb.

I was not a fan of Mrs T, but it does seem odd to 'celebrate' her death when that death won't change anything.

Is there anyone who feels that something positive comes out of her death. Is it felt to achieve some 'justice' (in the sense that the death of Pol Pot might be considered to) perhaps for those who died when the Belgrano sank? Is it just that it makes me happy she's dead because I didn't like her?

I'm in the indifferent camp. For me, it does not change any aspect of what she did.

She helped to develop the modern worker,

ie your on your own chap and the union won't be able to do anything about it.

Unless I am going completely senile everything in the above list COSTS MONEY, which contrary to the belief of every Labour government that ever was elected had to come from somewhere. I am no Maggie-lover, but until she went a bit loony towards the end of her third term she was the most effective PM we have had in my lifetime. I am old enough to remember the ghastly days of Wilson and Callaghan who bankrupted the country, Blair who was just a useless grinning PR machine whilst the country was being bankrupted in the background without his knowledge, and last but not least Gordon Brown - the worst chancellor of the exchequer in my living memory, and the worst PM in my living memory.

When Blair won in 1997 the British economy was in the best state it had been in for 30 years (thanks to Kenneth Clarke), and unfortunately the country has been in a steady tailspin since then. I confess that I vote Tory, but that is not because I am a hang-em and flog-em righty - I am just afraid of the altenative. God help us all if Ed Balls ever gets the keys to the safe

Wasn't there already a Thatcher Blair File. "Blaire Witch Project" wasn't it.

Love her or hate her at least she strayed from the middle ground, she stayed PM partly due to the Falklands but mainly due to Labour scoring a spectacular number of own goals in that era and the Liberals being discredited due to the Jeremy Thorpe scandal. Like any major catastrophy it takes a number of faults all alighning to create the disaster that was Thatcherism.

I must agree with Tim, Gordon Brown did as much damage as Maggie. Look at the mess pensions are in and the huge debt he left us in that has given the current goverment permsission to tax the poorest into submission.

Labour under Blair and Brown was a horlicks in the last few years.

Thatcher state funeral to be privatised

In keeping with the great lady's legacy, Margaret Thatcher's state funeral should be funded and managed by the private sector to offer the best value and choice for end users and other stakeholders.

The undersigned believe that the legacy of the former PM deserves nothing less and that offering this unique opportunity is an ideal way to cut government expense and further prove the merits of liberalised economics Baroness Thatcher spearheaded.

She pioneered and firmly believed that the state should play a minimal part in people lives, please give her what she would have wanted.

I actually met her once in 1985 when I worked in the City, totally disliked her from that point on. (I was 20 and had yet to form a real political opinion,) I felt so strongly about her after this that I resigned from the Young Conservatives. While I refuse to take joy in the death of any human being, I don't feel sorry that she has shuffled her mortal coil.

She simply was fortunate enough to be PM as the revenue from North Sea oil started flowing and then sold off the "family silver" to her mates. We wasted billions in dole payments, the inner cities were wracked by riots, she led us from a manufacturing economy to a service one, thus pre-empting the current banking finance (she loosened financial constraints).
When I first lived in Dubai in 1976-77 I was shocked to see real beggars on the streets, little did I know I would see them on the streets in the UK within 10 years.

Well, it made Cameron say something that I think he was sincere about.