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2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? #911703
05/10/2009 07:25
05/10/2009 07:25

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I've been thinking about this for a while, so as it says above really, what sort of money am I looking at to get it sorted and who could do it? I'm not an engine man, doing this myself would be too much.

I don't want huge power, just looking for reliable, low stress power using as much standard stuff as possible.

Any comments welcome.

Gareth

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #911704
05/10/2009 07:30
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id say at least 9-11k for a proper job. if your not looking for power id recommend keeping it standard or just going for 300+ hp with a gt28r and it will still be reliable and very driveable there are sum amazing results with that turbo now and it will be alot cheaper.


Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #911731
05/10/2009 08:55
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Originally Posted By: Spee
I don't want huge power, just looking for reliable, low stress power using as much standard stuff as possible.Gareth


If you don't want huge power, you don't need a 2.4 conversion

As has already been said, decent power (ie 300-350) is easily and cheaply achievable with a 2 litre block, running standard internals. The mods are retricted to bolt-on goodies (turbo, intercooler, filter & intake, injectors, exhaust and of course, some live mapping). All of this can be done for a couple of grand or so.

a 2.4 would be better, of this there is no doubt. It would spool earlier, probably give more torque and would definitely be better off-boost. However, it will cost five times as much.

If your definition of "huge power" is 500+, then a 2.4 is a good way of going about it. Anything less than 400 bhp as your target means staying with a 2.0 unless you have an irrational need to empty a bank account.


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Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: Nigel] #911897
05/10/2009 12:28
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It would spool earlier, probably give more torque and would definitely be better off-boost.

Thats the bit I like Nigel!

I can't understand why this would cost so much but I'll trust the judgement of you guys of course.

I colleague of mine had a fully rebuilt V6 shoe horned into his MR2, along with a supercharger and associated mods for £5000, all work carried out by a respected Toyota specialist, which is why I'm a little shocked at the prices suggested!

The idea behind my thinking was to achieve a modest power increase, but a more significant torque increase, but using a standard turbo on standardish boost, hopefully giving me a less stressed engine and better day to day drivability.

Never mind, sounds like a no go to me.

Gareth

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #912278
05/10/2009 21:38
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I can't understand why you'd think it would be so cheap.

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #912320
05/10/2009 23:05
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my advice is stay well clear of the 2.4 unless you want to customise a lot of other things...

clutch, cooling system ( oil & water ), exhaust, ECU, fuelling system, suspension ( odd to say that, but 400+ hp is no good on stock crap ), intercooler, gearbox, brakes, brakes, brakes, did I say brakes ! laugh

I only took the plunge cos my old engine spun a shell, else I wouldn't have bothered.

True, off boost performance is better, but you have to spend a lot for this benefit.


Cost versus returns smile

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #912327
05/10/2009 23:13
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id like to try the opposite,20vt coupe engine to replace a 2.4 in an stilo arbarth. Really like the stilo and with 220bhp standard i deffo have one.Unsure if its any easier either


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Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: coupedummy] #912330
05/10/2009 23:18
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Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #912359
06/10/2009 06:20
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Check this thread by JohnS as it gives a little bit of insight on the 2.4 conversion costs.

I've thought about the 2.4 conversion route before proceeding with my plan (3 years back) and I would say that the engine by itself would cost around £6,000.

As for who can, I'm sure others will comment on here. I know that Barbz can still do it but he is in UAE now.

I also say that you should go for the 2.4 conversion if you are ready for it.

Good luck mate smile

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #912368
06/10/2009 08:04
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Originally Posted By: Spee


I colleague of mine had a fully rebuilt V6 shoe horned into his MR2, along with a supercharger and associated mods for £5000, all work carried out by a respected Toyota specialist, which is why I'm a little shocked at the prices suggested!




That's stupidly cheap!

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #912379
06/10/2009 08:28
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I would build one but it isn't my day job. If you just want more torque and better driveability you could go with a standard head that will massively cut down the overall cost.


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Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: JohnS] #924801
26/10/2009 23:43
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Originally Posted By: JohnS
I would build one but it isn't my day job. If you just want more torque and better driveability you could go with a standard head that will massively cut down the overall cost.


if your serious, could you put one in a stilo and how much?

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #924829
27/10/2009 00:43
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i saw an offer few weeks ago 2,4l Kit with h beam rods, shorter pistons and Stilo crankshaft with bearings for about 2600 gbp

Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #924881
27/10/2009 09:19
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Spee: what setup do you have today?


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Re: 2.4 Conversion - How much, who can? [Re: ] #925168
27/10/2009 17:54
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Originally Posted By: swinisskill
Originally Posted By: JohnS
I would build one but it isn't my day job. If you just want more torque and better driveability you could go with a standard head that will massively cut down the overall cost.


if your serious, could you put one in a stilo and how much?


I could build the engine but not do the rest of the conversion. It has been done in a stilo abarth already I believe. Problem is the engine has to come out because unless it is very low mileage there is ovality in the top of thebores


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